Naval Unit Proposal - Minelayers and Minesweepers - 2nd Edition

James Hylton · Sep 24th 2015, 10:29pm

Idea my brother and I had for adding a more strategic element to Naval warfare in the game. Minelayers would be based upon ships like the British Abdiel-class of WWII. (see Here for details). These ships would possibly have characteristics as follows;

Research Costs: 2500 Goods, 2000 Rare Materials, 3000 Cash
Research time: 24 hours at level 1, plus 6 hours per level.
Research Levels: Level 1 at day 4, level 2 at day 8, level 3 at day 12, level 4 at day 16.
Build Costs: 1000 Goods, 225 Manpower, 2000 Metal, 250 Oil, 2750 Cash.
Build Time: 1 day, 6 hours, unboosted.
Upkeep: 20-25 Food, 65 Oil.
Defense stats: 2.0 against Ships and Subs, 0.5 against aircraft, plus 0.3 per level.
Attack stats: 1.0 vs Ships and Subs, plus 0.3 per level.
Speed: 28 km/h to 40km/h, level dependent.
HP: 25-30
Range: 20 Km.
Production Requirements: Level 2 Naval Base, Level 1 Factory.
Abilities: Can deploy 1-3 minefields per day, depending on level. Mines are stationary stealth units with 15-30 attack vs. ships and subs and take 3 hours to deploy. Can be detected by Destroyers, and removed by Minesweepers.

Minesweepers would be the counter to minefields, such as the Admirable-Class of WWII, with the following possible stats;

Research Costs: 2000 Goods, 2500 Rare Materials, 3500 Cash
Research time: 24 hours at level 1, plus 6 hours per level.
Research Levels: Level 1 at day 4, level 2 at day 8, level 3 at day 12, level 4 at day 16.
Build Costs: 1500 Goods, 150 Manpower, 1000 Metal, 250 Oil, 3250 Cash.
Build Time: 1 day, unboosted.
Upkeep: 15 Food, 45-65 Oil.
Defense stats: 1.0 vs Ships, 2.0 vs Subs, 0.3 vs aircraft, plus 0.3 per level.
Attack stats: 1.0 vs Ships, 0.5 vs Subs, plus 0.3 per level.
Speed: 20 km/h to 30 km/h, level dependent.
HP: 15-20
Range: N/A
Production Requirements: Level 2 Naval Base, Level 1 Factory.
Abilities: Can remove enemy minefields without damage; process takes 3-6 hours.

See Here for the original thread.

Butter Ball Bill · Sep 24th 2015, 10:32pm

I like it.

Jack Kennedy. · Sep 25th 2015, 12:00am

Good post.

James Hylton · Sep 25th 2015, 2:54am

Working on the last couple threads; should have them ready by tomorrow.

Also, a reminder to everyone who reads these, Please remember to let me know what you like and if there's anything you would change, and why.

Thanks again!

GreatbigHippo · Sep 25th 2015, 2:59am

I still don't like the idea of mines. I think it would just over complicate things, but not add anything fun.

Jack Kennedy. · Sep 25th 2015, 3:00am

You have my support , a big hello .

Sir McSquiggles · Sep 25th 2015, 3:06am

GreatbigHippo wrote:

I still don't like the idea of mines. I think it would just over complicate things, but not add anything fun.

I would have to agree. It will make things too complicated. I can already see the massive spamming of minelayers.

Butter Ball Bill · Sep 25th 2015, 8:03am

Remember, it takes time to lay mines. I hope they consume a lot of reso too.

V1nd1cat0r · Sep 26th 2015, 8:04am

this will surely block passage to the Med , not sure how combat will work though.
a great idea but most wont pour that much res on the navy, most battle is on land, and even with the pacific or even a world map, i dont think mines is a viable strategy, in an otherwise large map. could help block waterways but that sums it up.

James Hylton · Sep 26th 2015, 9:13am

For "combat", the idea was for the mines to behave like a missile: instant damage on contact, with the exception of with minesweepers, which would spend time dredging them.

V1nd1cat0r · Sep 26th 2015, 11:03am

I see, they will trigger when an enemy is within range. Will the mines cost res? If so how much? And what damage? I don't want to send a fleet on tight waterways where mines can destroy all of them. Do the mines damage is based on the ships stat or have stats of their own? These are really important to consider.

James Hylton · Sep 26th 2015, 6:19pm

James Hylton wrote:

Mines are stationary stealth units with 15-30 attack vs. ships and subs and take 3 hours to deploy. Can be detected by Destroyers, and removed by Minesweepers.

Missiles don't cost resources, so the same idea would apply here (Heck mines from WWII are still washing up on the shores today that work just fine). Minesweepers would be ships that could accompany capitol ships to protect them from minefields. I imagine that their damage would be based on their own stats,

purplepizza117 · Dec 18th 2015, 12:00am

James Hylton wrote:

Research time: 24 hours at level 1, plus 6 hours per level.

You mean 24+6n when n=level?

Caesar · May 9th 2016, 6:55am

Good suggestion.

Sir McSquiggles · May 9th 2016, 12:37pm

R.I.P @James Hylton

Caesar · May 9th 2016, 2:28pm

Sir McSquiggles wrote:

R.I.P @James Hylton

As he said, he will return soon.

Sir McSquiggles · May 9th 2016, 9:12pm

Maximilien wrote:

Sir McSquiggles wrote:

R.I.P @James Hylton

As he said, he will return soon.

i never got the news

GreatbigHippo · May 10th 2016, 1:11am

When you say this...

purplepizza117 wrote:

James Hylton wrote:

Research time: 24 hours at level 1, plus 6 hours per level.

You mean 24+6n when n=level?

You create this...

Sir McSquiggles wrote:

R.I.P @James Hylton

R.I.P. James Hylton.

purplepizza117 · May 10th 2016, 1:43am

GreatbigHippo wrote:

When you say this...

purplepizza117 wrote:

James Hylton wrote:

Research time: 24 hours at level 1, plus 6 hours per level.

You mean 24+6n when n=level?

You create this...

Sir McSquiggles wrote:

R.I.P @James Hylton

R.I.P. James Hylton.

I made that comment on December 17th, how'd I kill James Hylton?

Sir McSquiggles · May 10th 2016, 1:51am

purplepizza117 wrote:

I made that comment on December 17th, how'd I kill James Hylton?

Yeah, you definitely killed him. Probably gave him a bad pizza.

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