Is this cheating

  • Is this cheating

    This looks like cheating. Is it possible for a player to have multiple accounts and be logged on to the same game....and then mass ship resources to one account in order to gain advantage?

    Just asking......

    France - Official government communiqué, 13:40


    THese are the USA trades - One day ago - this does not look legitimate. Could the USA be controlling more than one country to gain advantage? How else would you explain this level of trading player to player in one day


    Northern States of America
    has the following resources:
    13,364 44,112 39,548 12,709 1,036 53,505 149,344
    Current stockmarket orders:
    Sell Orders:
    55,409
    4.1 / unit
    Last executed stockmarket orders:
    Bought:
    94
    4.8 / unit 144
    5 / unit 108
    3.5 / unit
    Last personal trade:
    Right of Way - Right of Way successful
    1429 Money - Share Map successful
    643 Metal - Share Map successful
    5000 Food - Share Map successful
    25071 Money - Share Map successful
    5000 Rare materials - Share Map rejected
    Share Map - Share Map successful
    2143 Metal - 8786 Oil successful
    15643 Oil - Share Map successful
    23143 Goods - Share Map successful
    5000 Metal - Share Map successful
    30000 Money - Share Map successful
    16929 Rare materials - Share Map successful
    Right of Way - Share Map successful
    Right of Way - Share Map successful
    30000 Rare materials - 30000 Money successful
    30000 Goods - Share Map successful
    15120 Metal - Share Map successful
    30000 Rare materials - Share Map successful
    100000 Money - Share Map successful
    5000 Food - Share Map successful
    15360 Oil - Share Map successful
    30000 Money - Share Map successful
    Peace - Peace rejected
    Right of Way - Share Map rejected
    Right of Way - Right of Way successful
    5000 Goods - Share Map successful
    5000 Metal - Share Map successful
    5000 Oil - Share Map successful
    19500 Rare materials - Share Map successful
    19286 Money - Share Map successful
    Albany - Share Map successful
    13571 Money - Share Map successful
    14357 Metal - Share Map successful
    19929 Goods - Share Map successful
    3643 Food - Share Map successful
    30000 Rare materials - Share Map successful
    30000 Oil - Share Map successful
    30000 Money - Share Map successful
    20400 Goods - Share Map successful
    30000 Money - Share Map successful
    17520 Metal - Share Map successful
    8160 Oil - Share Map successful
    20400 Rare materials - Share Map successful
    Share Map - Share Map successful
    Peace - Peace successful
    Ceasefire - Ceasefire rejected
    Right of Way - Right of Way successful
    52000 Money - Share Map successful
    5000 Metal - Share Map successful
    5000 Metal - Share Map successful
    5000 Metal - Share Map successful
    30000 Rare materials - Share Map successful
    30000 Oil - Share Map successful
    30000 Goods - Share Map successful
    5000 Food - Share Map successful
    5000 Goods - Share Map successful
    5000 Metal - Share Map successful
    5000 Oil - Share Map successful
    27643 Money - Share Map successful
    7440 Metal - 7200 Oil successful
    20786 Money - Share Map successful
    5000 Metal - Share Map successful
    12857 Goods - Share Map successful
    5000 Rare materials - Share Map successful
    3429 Oil - Share Map successful
    3857 Oil - Share Map rejected
    - Share Map successful
    I 1 - Share Map successful
    Right of Way - Right of Way rejected
    I 1 - Share Map successful
    5000 Food - Vienna rejected
    24643 Metal - Share Map successful
    30000 Goods - Share Map successful
    5000 Food - Share Map successful
    27429 Oil - Share Map successful
    30000 Rare materials - Share Map successful
    22286 Money - Share Map successful
    17280 Money - Share Map successful
    30000 Rare materials - Share Map successful
    30000 Oil - Share Map successful
    30000 Metal - Share Map successful
    30000 Goods - Share Map successful
    Right of Way - Right of Way successful
    Right of Way - Right of Way successful
    Share Map - Right of Way successful
    Right of Way - Right of Way successful
    5000 Metal - 5000 Oil successful
    5000 Metal - 5000 Rare materials rejected
    5520 Metal - 5760 Oil successful
    30000 Metal - 30000 Oil rejected
    Right of Way - Share Map rejected
    Share Map - Share Map successful
    Share Map - Share Map successful
    4071 Goods - Share Map successful
    4286 Metal - Share Map successful
    1071 Money - Share Map successful
    3000 Oil - Share Map successful
    5000 Food - Share Map successful
    Share Map - Share Map successful
    5000 Rare materials - Share Map successful
    5000 Metal - Share Map successful
    5000 Goods - Share Map successful
    Share Map - Share Map successful
    5000 Money - Share Map successful
    5000 Rare materials - Share Map successful
    5000 Rare materials - Share Map successful
    Satu Mare - Share Map successful
    28975 Oil - Share Map successful
    30000 Rare materials - Share Map successful
    3429 Money - Share Map successful
    30000 Metal - Share Map successful
    30000 Goods - Share Map successful
    - Share Map successful
    30000 Goods - Share Map successful
    30000 Metal - Share Map successful
    30000 Rare materials - Share Map successful
    30000 Oil - Share Map successful
    30000 Money - Share Map successful
    30000 Rare materials - Share Map successful
    12214 Oil - Share Map successful
    30000 Metal - Share Map successful
    30000 Goods - Share Map successful
    30000 Goods - Share Map successful
    30000 Metal - Share Map successful
    30000 Rare materials - Share Map successful
    52000 Money - Share Map successful
    14160 Oil - Share Map successful
    30000 Goods - Share Map successful
    30000 Metal - Share Map successful
    30000 Oil - Share Map rejected
    30000 Rare materials - Share Map successful
    71429 Money - Share Map successful
    25500 Oil - Share Map successful
    56800 Money - Share Map successful
    22320 Oil - Share Map rejected
    Share Map - Share Map successful
    Share Map - Share Map rejected
    - Share Map successful
    - Share Map successful
    Uppsala - Share Map successful
    13000 Oil - Share Map successful
    20600 Rare materials - Share Map successful
    50000 Rare materials - Share Map successful
    28700 Metal - Share Map successful
    44000 Goods - Share Map successful
    19000 Food - Share Map successful
    - Share Map rejected
    - Share Map rejected
    - Share Map rejected
    Örebro - Share Map rejected
    Right of Way - N 1 successful
    30000 Goods - Share Map successful
    30000 Metal - Share Map successful
    30000 Rare materials - Share Map successful
    21120 Oil - Sha
    He who loves peace should prepare for war.

    The post was edited 1 time, last by VorlonFCW: removed mention of players name ().

  • This is an example of resource pushing, and is definitely cheating


    Please use the report player button through the diplomacy menu to report the players involved. A screenshot using such a tool as lightshot or gyazo.com is helpful, but not necessary.
    War is a game that is played with a smile. If you can't smile, grin. If you can't grin keep out of the way til you can. - Winston Churchill



    VorlonFCW
    Senior Game Operator
    EN Support Team | Bytro Labs Gmbh

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  • Cheaters have their accounts closed.


    Not really much more to be done, unless you can program their computer to give them an electric shock or something. . . :D
    War is a game that is played with a smile. If you can't smile, grin. If you can't grin keep out of the way til you can. - Winston Churchill



    VorlonFCW
    Senior Game Operator
    EN Support Team | Bytro Labs Gmbh

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  • Each report is thoroughly investigated.

    Reports are handled in the order received

    These investigations take time as it is more desirable to catch all the related accounts than to simply ban the obvious account.


    So in this case you think that player 1,2, 3, and 4 are cheating. That means 4 investigations. It also can mean checking to see if that behavior is repeated in other games or just this one.

    on the surface there may be enough evidence to ban players 1 and 2, but players 3 and 4 may be more difficult to prove so an investigation might be paused for a few days or more to gather more evidence.

    There also can be times when the evidence is not as clear when looking at the history for the whole game. Your case lists a tremendous number of trades in one day. If there are further trades in opposite directions on other days the evidence gets muddied and less clear.

    Justice will be done in the end.
    War is a game that is played with a smile. If you can't smile, grin. If you can't grin keep out of the way til you can. - Winston Churchill



    VorlonFCW
    Senior Game Operator
    EN Support Team | Bytro Labs Gmbh

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  • I would say that it is likely that your plan to catch them redhanded was compromised by posting publicly about it here. It may have given them a chance to cover their tracks or create an alibi.

    If they got a tip that a raid was coming they may have been able to destroy or compromise the evidence. When crooks have time to prepare they are harder to catch.
    War is a game that is played with a smile. If you can't smile, grin. If you can't grin keep out of the way til you can. - Winston Churchill



    VorlonFCW
    Senior Game Operator
    EN Support Team | Bytro Labs Gmbh

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  • An investigation of cheating involves more than just resource trading of course. I frequently give surplus resources to my allies, but it doesn't mean I am cheating. I also don't see a problem with the quantities that you posted Last Warrior. The quantities in the original post definitely merit investigation.
    War is a game that is played with a smile. If you can't smile, grin. If you can't grin keep out of the way til you can. - Winston Churchill



    VorlonFCW
    Senior Game Operator
    EN Support Team | Bytro Labs Gmbh

    >>> Click Here to submit a bug report or support ticket <<<
  • 8,000 resources really isn't much. You aren't hindering yourself, to help an ally. Plus, half of what trades were shown, were rejected. So it looks twice as bad as it is.

    Spy reports also only show so much. It's very possible, that there is stuff the GO sees, that you cannot.
    Because deleting messages and trades does not hide them from Game Operators, if the player was cheating, xe would have been caught.

    If you are 100% sure that it was cheating, ask for SGO Mathex or MA Aeblemost to take a second look at the case. Even if higher staff has already looked at it, a second look is always possible if you really think a player was cheating. However, based on the part of the signature you show, I know who worked the ticket and trust they worked the ticket, correctly. Mathex or Aeblemost can still take another look if you ask.
    To ask for a second look, just reply to the PM you had gotten, and ask them if another staff member can double check.
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  • WiseOdin wrote:

    8,000 resources really isn't muc
    You need new glasses. On the picture there are 4 trades. overall 38k goods and 38k oil. for historic map it is really great ammount of help. But it is not enough. I killed 3 times his full strikeforces. But nobody can win parental credit card player...*************************

    The post was edited 1 time, last by Last Warrior ().

  • Last Warrior wrote:

    WiseOdin wrote:

    8,000 resources really isn't muc
    You need new glasses. On the picture there are 4 trades. overall 38k goods and 38k oil. for historic map it is really great ammount of help. But it is not enough. I killed 3 times his full strikeforces. But nobody can win parental credit card player...*************************
    Ah, so you're mad at him for spending money, and supporting the game servers. That's why "He must be cheating and staff MUST remove him."
    Free Time looks good on me