Why bother building a complex surface fleet, when you can just stack high level submarines and deal massive damage to ordinary fleets?
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Because while you're building high-level Subs ~ (Depending on the scenario) I'm building high-level Destroyers and Cruisers. After I clear out your subs I'll deal with any remaining navy - move at will across oceans - attack any forces along your coast while I deliver a D-Day style invasion force. Take a look at the stats - Elite Sub vs elite Destroyer."Es gibt keine verzweifelten Lagen, es gibt nur verzweifelte Menschen" - There are no desperate situations, there are only desperate people.
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I stopped building subs long ago, the only times I have any are when I trade for units or in an emergency when I can't afford any other sea units. I've never built a nuke sub.
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*Submarines + HC* vs *fleet without HC and without naval bomber* =submarines win (same ressource value)
Donald J. Trump wrote:
Why bother building a complex surface fleet
I have played many times with aircarriers, also aircarrierstack had battleships, cruiser, destroyer and submarines as escort. Naval bomber were watching every direction, Fighter deffed naval bombers. TB were transported to kill enemy land units from sea. But some hours streat ahead of carrier way i had another little fleet of cruisers and destroyers. and some hours behind i had main battleshipsfleet. and in any direction of up to 6 hours way i had some submarines stacks. And if i was online, on 4x map, it was really nice to move my FLEET from one coast to enemy coast. I was every time ready to fight. I could fight with several enemies at same time.
True fleet is a joker. Without heavy teamplay nobodies submarines fleets can fight true battle fleets.
Ok I had several times heavy teamplay and my submarinesfleet could kill more then average battle fleet, but not my own battle fleet. True submarines fleet should have at least 4 types of submarines. But even so it is not enough...The post was edited 1 time, last by Last Warrior ().
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injinji wrote:
I stopped building subs long ago, the only times I have any are when I trade for units or in an emergency when I can't afford any other sea units. I've never built a nuke sub.
You can use subs for espionage along the coast, as well as to stalk and harass bigger ships (excluding Destroyers, of course) and transport ships.
Also, the presence of even just one sub in the surrounding waters will have your enemy either send entire fleets in hunt of that sub or never dip his foot into the sea again. The psychological warfare aspect of subs is something that is very much overlooked, I find. There aren't many units that can make the enemy as paranoid and cause him to waste time and resources quite as much as a well utilized sub, the presence of which you must carefully chose to conceal or reveal to the enemy depending on the circumstances.
I make fundamental use of subs (which work wonderfully on solo missions as well as in packs) in every one of my Navies, and that strategy has proven very effective for me so far. -
Subs are instrumental in alliance matches, tooPax Romana Communications Officer
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injinji wrote:
I've never built a nuke sub.
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MontanaBB wrote:
injinji wrote:
I've never built a nuke sub.
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My games are always done before these are an option..Pax Romana Communications Officer
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StrangeTalent wrote:
My games are always done before these are an option.
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MontanaBB wrote:
StrangeTalent wrote:
My games are always done before these are an option.
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injinji wrote:
I built my CVN on a 100p map, a few weeks before it ended.
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So cruisers and battleships are better than subs??
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There is no better or worst all units have a purpose, same as for the army a competent navy needs combined arms approach.
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Kanaris wrote:
There is no better or worst all units have a purpose, same as for the army a competent navy needs combined arms approach.
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Subs are amazing, they are stealth, cheap and don't cost any manpower, they are cannonflesh really. They are great together with destroyers. You lock any ship into battle with subs and then you bombard with destroyers. No need for expensive battleships. Just keep it stupid, simple.BMfox
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