Tank, Tank Destroyer. They are all the same really...
Your Favourite Tank In WW2
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Yeah, I guess so. XD Tank Destroyers don't have turrets and have big guns; I think that's the difference.“Lord, make me an instrument of your peace; where there is hatred, let me sow love; where there is injury, pardon; where there is doubt, faith; where there is despair, hope; where there is darkness, light; and where there is sadness, joy.”
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Although they are separated by time in CoW tech tree, so there is a difference.“Lord, make me an instrument of your peace; where there is hatred, let me sow love; where there is injury, pardon; where there is doubt, faith; where there is despair, hope; where there is darkness, light; and where there is sadness, joy.”
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I've seen some threads back in my day where Overlord would've been proven quite wrong that a tank and a TD are not the same thing.Forum Gang Commissar
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Well if a Hellcat, a StuG-IIIf and a SU-76 can all be called "tank destroyers", it's such a big difference that I think it's safe to say that a tank and a TD indeed ARE all the same.When the fake daddies are curtailed, we have failed. When their roller coaster tolerance is obliterated, their education funds are taken by Kazakhstani phishers, and their candy bars distributed between the Botswana youth gangs, we have succeeded.
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K.Rokossovski wrote:
Well if a Hellcat, a StuG-IIIf and a SU-76 can all be called "tank destroyers", it's such a big difference that I think it's safe to say that a tank and a TD indeed ARE all the same.
FYI, in the universe of WW2 technology, this is why you cannot have a tank destroyer that is both heavily armored and fast because tank destroyer design was inherently a trade-off between those two factors.
In practice, tank destroyers were often not to be found when they were really needed, and the concept was mostly discarded (except by the West German Bundeswehr) by the major powers after World War II in favor of the more versatile main battle tank paradigm. With bigger caliber guns, better armor-piercing rounds, higher horsepower engines, and better armor technology and configurations, the main battle tank became the primary armored fighting vehicle from the 1950s through the present. -
MontanaBB wrote:
With bigger caliber guns, better armor-piercing rounds, higher horsepower engines, and better armor technology and configurations, the main battle tank became the primary armored fighting vehicle from the 1950s through the present.
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Quasi-duck wrote:
British tank's high velocity cannons were also not very good with HE shells as well, making them less versatile.
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MontanaBB wrote:
Quasi-duck wrote:
British tank's high velocity cannons were also not very good with HE shells as well, making them less versatile.
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MontanaBB wrote:
K.Rokossovski wrote:
Well if a Hellcat, a StuG-IIIf and a SU-76 can all be called "tank destroyers", it's such a big difference that I think it's safe to say that a tank and a TD indeed ARE all the same.
When the fake daddies are curtailed, we have failed. When their roller coaster tolerance is obliterated, their education funds are taken by Kazakhstani phishers, and their candy bars distributed between the Botswana youth gangs, we have succeeded.
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K.Rokossovski wrote:
This is one of the trade-offs, maybe the most important, but certainly not the only one. Another one is the choice between turreted or fixed gun (which is really quality/expensive versus quantity/cheap; or Hellcat versus SU-76); then there's design complexity (for example, use an existing medium tank hull or design a specific one; or StuG-III versus Hellcat); secondary armament may be considered a third one (or anti-infantry defense choices; a co-axial machinegun don't have much value on a non-turreted TD, bow machinegun requires an extra crew member in a role it isn't designed for, etc etc).
Tank destroyers are, obviously, very good at destroying tanks. They are very poor against infantry though, especially when you look at the German tank destroyers, many of which did not even have machine guns.
This is the key difference between TD and a tank. Tanks are much more versatile, but lack the power to adequately engage enemy tanks, only do a mediocre job. Tank destroyers often cripple a tank in one shot but will be troubled by infantry. You wouldn't use a tank destroyer to clear out houses and trenches over a tank, but you wouldn't use a tank over a tank destroyer for defending positions or setting up ambushes against large numbers of enemy tanks.Forum Gang Commissar
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