Ashley Madison Sidebar ad?

Tibbles · Apr 26th 2019, 12:00am

Not sure if it was a conscious decision to allow ads for a cheaters web site on your side bar, but it is simply distasteful.

Thanks

BMfox · Apr 26th 2019, 10:56am

Oeps, Don't know how that happened but it's highly inconvenient. Thanks for sharing.

VorlonFCW · Apr 26th 2019, 11:22am

I will need a screenshot of the offending ad in order to get it blocked, you can send it to me in a conversation to keep it private.

Tibbles · Apr 27th 2019, 5:10pm

I'll try and make it pop up again. Oddly, when I am at home I ALWAYS get served up German ads. When I am at work I see English ads. It may be a while before I can get it to pop up again. Whoever is serving ads to your English audience must be inserting them. I'm pretty sure I never went to that site. I am behind a firewall with 80 other people though.

(check adnxs.com or aka appnexus.com)

VorlonFCW · Apr 27th 2019, 8:14pm

Tibbles wrote:

I'll try and make it pop up again. Oddly, when I am at home I ALWAYS get served up German ads. When I am at work I see English ads. It may be a while before I can get it to pop up again. Whoever is serving ads to your English audience must be inserting them. I'm pretty sure I never went to that site. I am behind a firewall with 80 other people though.

(check adnxs.com or aka appnexus.com)

Likely one of your coworkers has visited the site or a similar site. Google tracks interest from your location and targets ads for similar content to that location. Such things are not approved or managed by someone here.

Now you should not see ads in German. I will check if I can figure out why.

Tibbles · May 3rd 2019, 10:51pm

thank you Vorlon,

I tried playing today on my work computer on my break and I got a new sidebar from a different hookup site. I don't go to hookup sites and in any case whoever is paying you to serve up ads should not be serving up adult oriented ads. I'm sure this is happening with children too.

Edepedable · May 4th 2019, 12:36am

Now this I find to be a very interesting topic (that this is probably not the right place for). It touches upon very interesting questions about censorship and the forum's attitude towards censorship.

I personally see no problem with those type of adverts. _{Even if they are catered to children. Children are just young adults if you ask me. Censorship could be required for things that are harmfull but I do not know if dating sites for married people or people in a relationship qualify as harmfull (yes I'm from Europe).}

_{However, one runs into a problem when applying censorhip since censorship itself is known to be harmful. I know because there is tension between freedom of speech and censorship. This is seen worldwide, the unwanted effects of censorship are that it always impedes free speech.}

_{In case I offend anyone with speaking my mind I do apologize. To speak for myself I can only declare that I am a philosophy student that should probably be studying right now, but is trying to find excuses not to....}

Tibbles · May 4th 2019, 3:41am

Following that logic children should get access to playboy website? Since denying a child would be censorship? What about the KKK? Can't censor them either.....clearly it would be discrimination. If dad is browsing porn, the kid on the same network shouldn't be served it up based on Google Metrics.

On the upside, I FINALLY GOT ENGLISH ADS AT HOME!

Edepedable · May 4th 2019, 7:07pm

Well no, that is not what that logic leads to at all? I said that advertising should be free and you take that to mean that you might as well give children acces to playboy website? I do not see how that logicly follows? There is a difference between 'acces to' and 'advertisement for'. Acces can be somewhat controled in a way that advertidement can not be. Kids should be educated on what certain kinds of advertisement is and sets out to do. I think parents have a job there. Yes, whether that is playboy or not.

I have not ever seen KKK comercials so I doubt those are around.

If a father browses pornografy on his computer and that leads to the kids seeying ads related to that, its the dads job to explain what those ads are and what they do. Don't really see a problem with people having to raise their kids in a world where kids have acces to the internet. If dad has a problem with that then that raises some serious questions about his capableness of being a father if you ask me.

I see no point in an entire generation of children falling victim to their parents being prude about explicit sexual content. The plurality of advertisement that is to cater to all kinds of people requires some sort of understanding that views on relationships differ among people, regarding the ashley madison website that is. I think that is a very valuable life lesson for children around the world. One can not be sheltered from different views its entire life, in fact, that can be quite harmful.

BMfox · May 4th 2019, 7:19pm

Edepedable wrote:

Well no, that is not what that logic leads to at all? I said that advertising should be free and you take that to mean that you might as well give children acces to playboy website? I do not see how that logicly follows? There is a difference between 'acces to' and 'advertisement for'. Acces can be somewhat controled in a way that advertidement can not be. Kids should be educated on what certain kinds of advertisement is and sets out to do. I think parents have a job there. Yes, whether that is playboy or not.

I have not ever seen KKK comercials so I doubt those are around.

If a father browses pornografy on his computer and that leads to the kids seeying ads related to that, its the dads job to explain what those ads are and what they do. Don't really see a problem with people having to raise their kids in a world where kids have acces to the internet. If dad has a problem with that then that raises some serious questions about his capableness of being a father if you ask me.

I see no point in an entire generation of children falling victim to their parents being prude about explicit sexual content. The plurality of advertisement that is to cater to all kinds of people requires some sort of understanding that views on relationships differ among people, regarding the ashley madison website that is. I think that is a very valuable life lesson for children around the world. One can not be sheltered from different views its entire life, in fact, that can be quite harmful.

As a socio-pedagogue working daily with teenagers living in precarious environments I totally agree with this. Children need to be thought how to deal with certain internet content. If they have been protected from this then they might get in serious trouble when they become teenagers and start exploring and experimenting with their sexuality. There's a nasty world out there and the best way to protect kids against it is not keeping them away from it but explaining them what is what and what the risks are. This way they will grow up to be responsible adults that are able to evaluate risks on the internet and not getting harmed.

Tibbles · May 4th 2019, 9:21pm

Hi Fox, Vorlon's original premise was that targeted ads look at the source IP address to determine metrics. No targeted ads should be adult oriented unless the content of the web site is adult oriented. I'm using Ad blocker and I still get them. If adult ads are served through your site there should be parental consent to using the site. In my opinion. Children shouldn't need to be taught to mentally filter inappropriate content, it shouldn't be delivered when it isn't asked for. "Life is too short, have an affair" is not a moral standard that your company should be endorsing, in my opinion, and I'm pretty sure you could have the ads removed. If you tell a child not to look at something what do you think will happen?

Please close the thread if you wish.

BMfox · May 4th 2019, 10:17pm

I know what Vorlon replied, the adds are indeed determined by google based on the online history of the IP address. So when an adult is gaming the adds will be related to his content. If a child uses his computer to play the game, than he/she will get other content of adds based on their online history. So to be clear, children will not receive any inappropriate content when they use their own device. In the case that a child is playing on the computer of an adult and sees adult content then (it is the responsibility of the adult and) it is the task of the adult to explain the child what is happening, why it's happening and what it all means. If you don't want any adds at all then even the smallest purchase of 4,99€ your account will become add-free indefinite.

We still have the naturalistic view of the innocent child who needs to be safeguarded in the safe environment of a garden far away from any threats of the outside to cultivate its innocence and grow up to be an adult. The downside is that we keep children unaware and clueless. In modern day society this doesn't work because children have internet access anywhere at any time. So if you want to safeguard children then they need to thought about online risks, not just adds but everything. Now i know that this is a European way to approach nurturing children and that the Sates are more conservative but we live in a globalized world so children can't be protected forever. With the right parental support, children will be able to develop the skills to guard themselves what is an important step towards adult independence.

VorlonFCW · May 4th 2019, 11:57pm

Ads are based on your search history. Targeted ads show content in line with recent searches. For example two weeks ago I bought seeds for my garden, and currently all of my ads are seed related. These are simply ads to draw you back in. Now in my case I did all my seed shopping for the year already, so it is wasted advertising, but that is the way that these work.

And as I said above

VorlonFCW wrote:

I will need a screenshot of the offending ad in order to get it blocked, you can send it to me in a conversation to keep it private.

Without such a screenshot this is simply a thread to bash bytro, and is now closed.

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