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    • General Nightman wrote:

      I was able to have everything necessary for their building complete by day 8,
      so... what you are saying: by end of day 9 I will have 1 para ready .... after stalling so many other crucial developments and reducing resource output potential of your capital?
      Worth it?

      A different scenario:
      By end of day 2, mass produced artillery are rolling out of the factories, reaching the enemy borders in numbers by day 3-4, destroying everything in their path on day 4-5-6.
      By day 9 the now level 2 artillery divisions will blast the - if any remaining - meagre, under-developped troops, trying to hold the last line, to smithereens, while increasing numbers of LTs and ACs will exploit the breaches and rake havoc in the hinterland (if any still remaining) and ... per chance .... take that capital well before that para is ready?

      I am just giving a scenario for an average player. I takes me considerably less time to take down my neighbour w/ conventional troops and w/o gold ;)

      I have build 6 paras and used 2 to take provinces that would take me another 2 hours to take with ACs, bc i was bored with them. The other 4 are still hanging around the barracks ... drinking beer, I guess. Haven't looked at them for a while.

      whats lacking is: range. no range = no use. i don't remember if I mentioned that before.... did i?

      The post was edited 1 time, last by _Pontus_ ().

    • _Pontus_ wrote:

      A different scenario:
      By end of day 2, mass produced artillery are rolling out of the factories, reaching the enemy borders in numbers by day 3-4, destroying everything in their path on day 4-5-6.
      By day 9 the now level 2 artillery divisions will blast the - if any remaining - meagre, under-developped troops, trying to hold the last line, to smithereens, while increasing numbers of LTs and ACs will exploit the breaches and rake havoc in the hinterland (if any still remaining) and ... per chance .... take that capital well before that para is ready?

      For one, I disagree with that strategy. I never attack until the Industrial complex's are level 2. Too much resources wasted otherwise.

      _Pontus_ wrote:

      so... what you are saying: by end of day 9 I will have 1 para ready .... after stalling so many other crucial developments and reducing resource output potential of your capital?
      Worth it?
      Also, especially on a 22 player map, one city devoted to paratroopers is not a big deal. Sure, it's slightly less than the troops you may have, but used correctly, you'll feel the pain from them.

      _Pontus_ wrote:

      whats lacking is: range. no range = no use. i don't remember if I mentioned that before.... did i?
      Get over it, or upgrade. A range of a level 1 fighter isn't the best, but it's not 5km either.
      "War is fought in three ways. Helping your enemy to lose, helping your allies to victory or helping yourself to win. Any way you take it, you are always helping someone."
    • Patrolling interceptors have 25% damage and 100% defense every 15 minutes.
      So yes, they will attack on patrol.
      Considering the paratroopers plane only has 5HP, even a level 1 fighter will shoot them down.
      "War is fought in three ways. Helping your enemy to lose, helping your allies to victory or helping yourself to win. Any way you take it, you are always helping someone."
    • In my overall dead game w/o active enemies, I am still stuck with several para's for which I still can't find good use.

      Out of laziness I jumped to Sardinia and Corsica; hardly strategic targets. Some other two I used before to save me 2 hrs (Two? Yes 2.).

      As is, paras are not very useful.
      Someone said something about that I would be 'feeling the pain of paras' bc they have more than 5km range.
      I don't see how 5 or 500km make a difference, if the jump distance of maxed out (not elite) paras hardly ever exceeds 2 provinces.

      If paras had the range of Tacs, I might start to consider them. As is, they are too expensive in real and opportunity costs compared to their very limited usefulness.

      I think the proof of what I am saying is in the fact that paras are definitely not darkening the skies. I see nobody producing them (outside FP games).

      In case I forgot to mention it: the most important limitation of the paras, IMO, is their limited range ...
    • _Pontus_ wrote:

      In my overall dead game w/o active enemies, I am still stuck with several para's for which I still can't find good use.
      I'm in my first game where I will be able to use them. I think I will just build them to see what they can and can not do.

      As far as I can tell from their stats and range they seem like a worse investment than commandos, stat wise.

      Game mechanic wise they are of course unique. I am in an antarctica map and from what I can tell, they should be able to jump the mountains and capture one of the provinces surounding a center.

      So if someone is completely unprepared I can take advantage of that. However, combined with all the building requirements I need to keep them in stock to take advantage of this. Otherwise the moment might pass.

      So I haven't used them yet, but I can definately see some weak spots in using them.
      - building requirements, they cost a lot. The investment made to research and build then will cost you. You will have a lot less other units.
      - predictable use, why else have a lvl3 airfield in my capitol.
      - to many level ups. They cost a lot of time and resources to get up to a decent level.
      - probably only works against very unprepared enemies.

      So at the moment I do not see how they compete with any other unit. Especially since the other unit exclusively built at the capitol is so much better.

      The unique mechanics of para's does not seem worth the investment at the moment.

      The post was edited 1 time, last by Edepedable ().

    • predictable use, why else have a lvl3 airfield in my capitol.
      Just build lvl 3 airports everywhere, disguise your activities!
      Building a lvl 2 barrack could also throw them off your scent.
      "War is fought in three ways. Helping your enemy to lose, helping your allies to victory or helping yourself to win. Any way you take it, you are always helping someone."
    • General Nightman wrote:

      predictable use, why else have a lvl3 airfield in my capitol.
      Just build lvl 3 airports everywhere, disguise your activities!Building a lvl 2 barrack could also throw them off your scent.
      Yes, I'd though about the same thing. But that is a very costly undertaking just to throw other players off. Besides, they would still realize that para's are an option. Whether you also build lvl 3 airfields elsewhere or not.
    • Unfortunately strats are of limited use as rockets are so bloody OP. Its like having a multitool that is awesome at everything not average at everything but truly awesome. You are not going to spend time and money for something that is only good at one thing. Poor strats I would sure love to use them and have really tried in the past.

      Anyway I think we are off topic