Historical no-gold roleplay map 25 players.

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    • Historical no-gold roleplay map 25 players.

      We write who wants to play for which country of the free to choose. Minimum level 30, Minimum ratio of killed / lost combat units in matches against other players 1.5. For countries other than the USSR, Germany, Britain, the USA, Japan, Nationalist China, France, Italy, Spain, Romania, the minimum requirements are level 20, the ratio of dead / lost combat units in matches against other players is 1.2. We play till the victory, do not leave the game in any case. People for the next game will be recruited first (and to more powerful countries) from those who finished the previous game to the end. It is forbidden to use gold and transfer troops (except 10 US destroyers for the British lend-lease). Elite units with a star are banned. In diplomacy and in the newspaper we play the role of some historical representative of the country you are playing for, we write at least one article a day about your country. You can search Google for what happened during the period corresponding to the events on the map. You can write some soldier's song of the time, or about the release of combat unites, which your designers are working on. The newspaper can be written in different languages. If you have difficulties of understanding you can use Google translator.

      Each country has its own political specifics and objectives for victory, some have common with other countries. All countries can be divided into Axis countries (which win if Germany or Japan win), the countries of the anti-Hitler coalition (which win if Germany or Japan are defeated) and neutral / undecided countries. The Axis countries can attack only the countries of the anti-Hitler coalition or the neutral ones. The countries of the anti-Hitler coalition can only be attacked by the Axis or neutral countries.

      Conditions of victory.

      1.USSR. Taking control of Finland, the Baltic states, Persia must be under Soviet or British, or British-Soviet control, the taking of Romania, Hungary, Czechoslovakia, Austria. After that, there must be a taking of Berlin. Japan should not control a city in continental Asia. The war against Japan can only begin after the capture of Berlin.

      2. Germany. The capture of Poland, Belgium, the Netherlands, Luxembourg, Denmark, Norway, Paris and at least five provinces in France, including 2 other cities except Paris. The attack on France is possible only after the capture of previous countries. The defeat of the USSR, Britain, USA. (The attack on these countries is possible only after the capture of Paris).

      3. Britain Persia must be British, or Soviet, or British-Soviet. The defeat of Germany, taking control of Greece, Egypt and the African territories of Italy. We are obliged to transfer to the USA 5 cities in the colonies as landlease payment (one city per day starting on the tenth day). Must control Hamburg.

      4. United States. Capture the German provinces in France. Available only from day 12. Obliged to transfer over a lend-lease of 10 thousand units of resources at the request of Nationalist China. 30 thousand units of resources at the request of Britain and 10 destroyers for Britain, 10 thousand units of resources at the request of the USSR (3 thousand resources and 1 destroyer per day, first to China or Britain, the USSR receives the last). Must control Munchen and Koln.

      5. Japan. The defeat of Nationalist China, control of Communist China, Indonesia, Indochina. Defeat the USA. The war against the USSR can only be started by the Soviet Union, after the capture of Berlin by the Soviets.

      6. Romania. Germany's ally, victory in the victory of Germany. Romania is obliged to control Odessa. Cannot attack the USSR before Germany.

      7. France. Two possible scenarios of victory: can win with the defeat of Germany as “Fighting France” by de Gaulle, or can win with the victory of Germany like the puppet republic of Vichy (you can only be a Vichy republic if the Germans control Paris and two more French cities). Every day must give information about his political position in the newspaper, French troops submit to General de Gaulle on the side of Britain, the USA and the USSR, or report to Marshal Petain on the side of Germany. After the announcement of the political course, it can change the course no earlier than on the fifth day, not counting the day of the announcement of the previous course.

      8. Italy. Two possible winning scenarios: Initially - Axis participant. Can win with the victory of Germany as a fascist Italy Mussolini, or Mussolini will die, and win with the defeat of Germany, taking the side of the anti-Hitler coalition. If you side with the anti-Hitler coalition, you can no longer change sides.

      9. Yugoslavia. Partisans Tito - allies of the USSR. Win in USSR will take Berlin.

      10. Nationalist China. The defeat of Japan.

      11. Manchuria. Puppet State of Japan. Winning with the victory of Japan.

      12. Spain. Two possible scenarios of victory: can win with the defeat of Germany as a Republican Spain, or can win with the victory of Germany as a fascist Spain. Every day he must give the newspaper information about his political position, to whom the Spanish troops are subordinate, to the parliament or to the fascist caudillo. After the announcement of the political course, it can change the course no earlier than on the fifth day, not counting the day of the announcement of the previous course. Must supply Germany with an order of one thousand resources from the first day within 10 days, even if it does not support Germany.

      13. Sweden. Two possible scenarios of victory: can win with the defeat of Germany as a bourgeois democracy, or can win with the victory of Germany as a fascist Sweden. Every day he must give the newspaper information about his political position, to whom the Swedish troops are subordinate, to the parliament or the fascist caudillo. After the announcement of the political course, it can change the course no earlier than on the fifth day, not counting the day of the announcement of the previous course.

      14. Persia. Germany's ally. Winning with the victory of Germany, can not attack the enemy before Germany.

      15. Canada. Ally of Britain. Wins when Britain wins.

      16. India. Ally of Britain. Wins when Britain wins.

      17. Australia. Ally of Britain and the United States. Wins when Britain and the USA win.

      18. Brazil. Ally of Britain and the United States. Wins when Britain and the USA win.

      19. Mongolia. Ally of the USSR. Winning the victory of the USSR. Help for USSR by 10 thousands resources ordered by USSR at the 3-rd day.

      20. Tibet. Can not attack Japan. Once is able to choose the side of Japan and win with it, or the side of the anti-Hitler coalition, then will get victory if USSR, Britain and the United States will.

      21. Mexico. Ally of Britain and the United States. Wins when Britain and the USA win.

      22. Poland. Two scenarios of victory. Army Ludowa - an ally of the USSR. Winning if USSR will win. Army Krajowa alyy of Britain. Krajowa win if Britain will win but USSR will lose. Krajowa myst declare war to USSR. Selects a side once. If he chooses the army of Ludowa, the USSR has the right to demand the return of Western Ukraine and Western Belorussia occupied by Poland, and Poland cannot refuse.

      23. Argentina. Germany's ally. Winning with the victory of Germany.

      24. Turkey. Two possible scenarios of victory: can win with the defeat of Germany as having taken the side of the anti-Hitler coalition, or can win with the victory of Germany taking its side. Selects a side once, on the twelfth day.

      25. Shinjiang. Two possible scenarios of victory: as an ally of Nationalist China, to win with China, or as an ally of Japan to win with Japan. Choose the side once on the twelfth day.

      Taken countries:
      USSR - Stalinizator.

      The post was edited 6 times, last by Stalinizator ().

    • Stalinizator wrote:

      Read pls what is written in the ending, I am a USSR. Its for communists only. Are you a communist? No, so you have no right to play the greatest country in a world :)
      But it could be, that when people will gather, my free time will be ended, so it will be without me :(
      Read pls what is written in the beginning.
      Your level and stats are not high enough. :P

      The post was edited 1 time, last by Edepedable ().

    • Stalinizator wrote:

      Elite units with a star are banned.
      Why?


      Edepedable wrote:

      Stalinizator wrote:

      Read pls what is written in the ending, I am a USSR. Its for communists only. Are you a communist? No, so you have no right to play the greatest country in a world :)
      But it could be, that when people will gather, my free time will be ended, so it will be without me :(
      Read pls what is written in the beginning.Your level and stats are not high enough. :P
      Yeah I would apply but i am double under standard for the K/D ratio.
    • Why are you obligated to give up territory to change Alliances? Why cant, if its already a RP, we have a ie. Civil war in France, Fascist get the government and you side with Hitler? Why do you need to lose Paris? And you can have a Civil War or an uprising every 15 days. Just an idea.
    • hakijaa wrote:

      Why are you obligated to give up territory to change Alliances? Why cant, if its already a RP, we have a ie. Civil war in France, Fascist get the government and you side with Hitler? Why do you need to lose Paris? And you can have a Civil War or an uprising every 15 days. Just an idea.
      According reports of German Agriculture Ministery in Germany was lack of food for 30 millions people in Germany. People already had very bad nutrition, and it was a danger of deadly hunger. it they will not capture some territories. Hitler build his Reich thanks to foreign credits, and to solve all of this problems Germany should rob some colonies. As colonies he wanted to capture USSR. By the way, Poland wasn`t planed as colony, before 1939 it was an ally of Hitler, who prepared to help Hitler. Conflict between Germany and Poland began because of Danzig-Gdansk.
      But first Hitler planned that Japan will do the first strike against USSR. It was an Anti-Commintern pact of Berlin-Rome-Tokio. Japan attacked USSR twice, near Hasan lake, and Halkhin-Gol. They remembered weakness of Russian empire and thougt USSr is the same easy enemy, but they were hardly beaten by Red Army. Than Japan decided first to conquer China, but also China wasnt so easy enemy as they thought. China also got help against Japan from USA and USSR. Than in 1939 it was a non-aggression pact, which western propaganda showing as "deal of Stalin and Hitler to begin WW2", that is wrong. This pact confused Japan, and they stopped to trust Germany, thinking that it can be a deadly trap of getting to conflict against strong USSR alone, without German help from West. All of that time Hitler tried to pull Geat Britain and France into war against USSR as a Anti-Communist Crusade. First it worked, Chamberlain, Galifax, Daladier governments were on his side, but British imperialism had also the idea of the domination compared to Germany on world markets, which became the most important in trade wars between British and German capitalists after WW1. So british big business brought to power Churchil, who hate Germany the same as USSR, and just wanted to destroy them both. France after the WW1 became to much depended of Great Britain, so their politics was equal to British. But also in France before war it was a great raising of communistic power, and 200 richest French families told "better Hitler than People Front (French communists)". They were glad to give up France to nazis to they will kill communists. Once before, in 1870-s they did the same, it was a socialistic revolution in France, Paris Commune was created. In a same time it was a war between France and Prussia, and French capitalists acted together with Germans to kill French workers who got the power. By the way, new Paris instead of Medieval was made this was exactly for possibility to use artillery in a city against workers, if uprising will repeat. So, the French puppet nazi Vichy government, with occupeted France with its industry included to warmachine of Germany was alsolutely logical. Goebbels even used several images in propaganda: Jeanne d'Arc as a symbol of a Grench struggle against Britain (which is the same german enemy), Charlemagne as emperor of France and Germany (Hitler is a continuator), Napoléon- as emperor of France who fought against of Russia (Hitler is also a continuator). Hitler needed powerful french warcmachine to throw it to the East.
    • Edepedable wrote:

      Stalinizator wrote:

      According reports of German Agriculture Ministery in Germany was lack of food for 30 millions people in Germany... ... Hitler needed powerful french warcmachine to throw it to the East.
      Based on what you say I conclude that you were not schooled in western-Europe were you?
      Fortunately i didn`t. If you want to argue about my meggage - lets go. I have a master degree in History, in a university ranked H+ by western european system, it means equal to european university. So, I think that you will not wonder me with your school programm. But you will really wonder me, if you will be able to proove the opposite point to things, which i wrote about.
    • Stalinizator wrote:

      Fortunately i didn`t. If you want to argue about my meggage -
      No not really, just making observations :)

      Stalinizator wrote:

      I have a master degree in History, in a university ranked H+ by western european system, it means equal to european university. So, I think that you will not wonder me with your school programm. But you will really wonder me, if you will be able to proove the opposite point to things, which i wrote about.
      You are not the only one with a university degree here. No reason to make such explicit mention of it though. As far as your reasoning seems to go 'I studied history, I am right' is not a valid line of reasoning.

      Just fyi, and no other reason, you do know that you did not study history right? You studied the perception onto history and historical accounts wherever it may be that you did your studies. That is why I can tell you were not schooled in western Europe. Nothing wrong with that of course, every study program in any country is influenced by the country's politics and history itself. Just as long as you do not see your viewpoint as 'the truth' and the only truth. That is actually the mistake the west is often accused of. I doubt there is such a thing as only one truth looking back from our time onto earlier times. Again, just fyi.

      Edepedable wrote:

      Stalinizator wrote:

      Read pls what is written in the ending, I am a USSR. Its for communists only. Are you a communist? No, so you have no right to play the greatest country in a world :)
      But it could be, that when people will gather, my free time will be ended, so it will be without me :(
      Read pls what is written in the beginning.Your level and stats are not high enough. :P
      So what about this? :D
    • Edepedable wrote:

      Stalinizator wrote:

      According reports of German Agriculture Ministery in Germany was lack of food for 30 millions people in Germany... ... Hitler needed powerful french warcmachine to throw it to the East.
      Based on what you say I conclude that you were not schooled in western-Europe were you?
      Special for you, bro. As i remember, forum rules are against of links, but you can easy get the source to western historian, copypasting it in google. Some else questions? I am ready to discuss everything.
      Germany's Staatssekretäre, Mass Starvation and the Meeting of 2 May 1941Author(s): Alex J. KaySource: Journal of Contemporary History, Vol. 41, No. 4 (Oct., 2006), pp. 685-700Published by: Sage Publications, Ltd.
    • Still am not convinced why i cant switch alliances in a RP thru Uprisings, and all those things you mentioned were well known by me, you werent right with Japan tho because Japan was defeated by USSR and the Ceasefire was greatly insisted by them, they would be crushed if they didnt accept it...
    • Edepedable wrote:

      Stalinizator wrote:

      Fortunately i didn`t. If you want to argue about my meggage -
      No not really, just making observations :)

      Stalinizator wrote:

      I have a master degree in History, in a university ranked H+ by western european system, it means equal to european university. So, I think that you will not wonder me with your school programm. But you will really wonder me, if you will be able to proove the opposite point to things, which i wrote about.
      You are not the only one with a university degree here. No reason to make such explicit mention of it though. As far as your reasoning seems to go 'I studied history, I am right' is not a valid line of reasoning.
      Just fyi, and no other reason, you do know that you did not study history right? You studied the perception onto history and historical accounts wherever it may be that you did your studies. That is why I can tell you were not schooled in western Europe. Nothing wrong with that of course, every study program in any country is influenced by the country's politics and history itself. Just as long as you do not see your viewpoint as 'the truth' and the only truth. That is actually the mistake the west is often accused of. I doubt there is such a thing as only one truth looking back from our time onto earlier times. Again, just fyi.

      Edepedable wrote:

      Stalinizator wrote:

      Read pls what is written in the ending, I am a USSR. Its for communists only. Are you a communist? No, so you have no right to play the greatest country in a world :)
      But it could be, that when people will gather, my free time will be ended, so it will be without me :(
      Read pls what is written in the beginning.Your level and stats are not high enough. :P
      So what about this? :D
      I am telling exactly opposite, that everyone can have different point of view, i can have the point that the Moon is a green cheese, hanging on a hight of 20 meters. I really dont think so, of course, but such point of ciew is possible, why not? But i cannot proove it. So its just a point, which is not prooved, and not equal to the point of astronomy professor.
      What about history, i can proove every my word, that is the difference. So the point i am telling - is correct, even if someone disagree with it, and have opposite point, as far, as i can proove my point, but he cannot proove his. Its not about balls size, its about prooved facts.
    • Edepedable wrote:

      Edepedable wrote:

      Stalinizator wrote:

      Read pls what is written in the ending, I am a USSR. Its for communists only. Are you a communist? No, so you have no right to play the greatest country in a world :)
      But it could be, that when people will gather, my free time will be ended, so it will be without me :(
      Read pls what is written in the beginning.Your level and stats are not high enough. :P
      ???
      When i posted this topic - i though community is more active, and we will find people faster. Now my free time goes to end, and i am not sure it will be even enough people for such a game untill autumn, maybe you will need to gather people without me, with your own preferences whom to take.
      USSR shouldn`t lose this game :) Right now i playing a H25 map as USSR, where ALL, really ALL people are against of me, from every side. I am the only player with whom all the people have war, no even 1 another war on a map. all of them togather against of me. Its day 8 now, i have more than 800 points, and beating them from every side. USSR should be like that! :)
    • hakijaa wrote:

      Still am not convinced why i cant switch alliances in a RP thru Uprisings, and all those things you mentioned were well known by me, you werent right with Japan tho because Japan was defeated by USSR and the Ceasefire was greatly insisted by them, they would be crushed if they didnt accept it...
      Before WW2 (if we consider beginning of WW2 from 1st of September 1939) were 2 military conflicts between USSR and Japan: on a lake Khasan, and of Khalkhin-Gol, both USSR won (also was the Japanese military intervention in Civil War time). Really its more correct to count the beginning of WW2 from the war in Asia in 1937, but... ok.
      Next time Red Army destroyed Japanese Army according the deal with USA, exactly 1 month after Berlin falling, as Stalin promised, marshal vasilvskit began the operation in Manchzhuria against Japanese Kvantunian Army (1.4 millions people). USSR won, as usually, with losing few thousands of Soviet soldiers. After that, in fact Japan lost synthetic fuel production and a lot of metal industry, so the war in fact was lost for them.
      But... in 1939 it was a big danger of japanese attack from the East, and than, Germant attack from the West. Really deadly danger.
    • Stalinizator wrote:

      hakijaa wrote:

      Still am not convinced why i cant switch alliances in a RP thru Uprisings, and all those things you mentioned were well known by me, you werent right with Japan tho because Japan was defeated by USSR and the Ceasefire was greatly insisted by them, they would be crushed if they didnt accept it...
      Before WW2 (if we consider beginning of WW2 from 1st of September 1939) were 2 military conflicts between USSR and Japan: on a lake Khasan, and of Khalkhin-Gol, both USSR won (also was the Japanese military intervention in Civil War time). Really its more correct to count the beginning of WW2 from the war in Asia in 1937, but... ok.Next time Red Army destroyed Japanese Army according the deal with USA, exactly 1 month after Berlin falling, as Stalin promised, marshal vasilvskit began the operation in Manchzhuria against Japanese Kvantunian Army (1.4 millions people). USSR won, as usually, with losing few thousands of Soviet soldiers. After that, in fact Japan lost synthetic fuel production and a lot of metal industry, so the war in fact was lost for them.
      But... in 1939 it was a big danger of japanese attack from the East, and than, Germant attack from the West. Really deadly danger.
      No one RPs in this much depth lmao