disappearing units

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      Please read this entire scenario before responding. I'm 95% through lvl 84 so I have some idea of what I'm talking about.

      Situation: my coalition member moves all current units to his capitol, Washington DC. Shortly after, a few cities build a few more units. Capitol has 24 units present 18 of which are infantry, there are about 7 other units scattered in a like number of provinces. He then goes idle and my relationship moves to Right of Way.

      Shortly after, maybe 1 day, he returns to active. He then shares map with me. I see he has 6 units in capitol, all infantry, and the other units that were around are still all scattered about, roughly 7 units in 7 provinces.

      He isn't at war, his units aren't on the ocean, or in another country, or anywhere. 18 units vanished. I check newspaper, he hasn't fought anyone, no casualties show, nothing anywhere. I check through 3-4 days worth of articles. I'm legit perplexed. Where did, or where could have, his army gone? I simply have no idea.

      It's been 3 days, I still have shared map, I have not seen them anywhere. I asked him about it but no response. Did the devs sneak in a way to disband your own units?
    • I'm pretty confident you still can't disband.

      Out of curiosity, you wouldn't happen to have his total troop count numbers from the before and after would you, from the 'Known Army Size' thing?

      It'd sure help narrow down whether the troops are actually gone versus some graphical SNAFU.

      Also, I read the entire scenario. I recognize you as Lv84 and post this with all due respect. <3
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    • Cuursed1 wrote:

      .. Where did, or where could have, his army gone? I simply have no idea.

      Don't worry, we picked up some units for investigation, they will be back ..

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    • There’s a lot of glitches like this when a player goes inactive. Something like that happened to me too.
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    • The AI natively does distribute units to all provinces, so them being more scattered instead of centralized is expected.


      Units can be converted to other ownership through rebellion, although the number you suggest makes that unlikely.



      There are a few circumstances where combat loss of a unit is not listed in the newspaper. As that could be used as an exploit I am not able to provide the all the details of how that occurs. One example is collateral damage from an atomic blast. An atomic blast will affect all units in range regardless of the status of being at war or not. Point to point air attacks of that type only declare war on the owner of the province at the point of impact. Based on the army size it may be too early in your map for atomic weapons though.



      Otherwise I think Restrisiko has the right answer. ;)
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    • Yeah I think it was day 6 or 7, he was USA with no enemies, all the units that vanished were not anti tank, all the units produced in the scattered provinces were anti tank, units that vanished were in washington DC, it was 18 units that disappeared. let me think.

      he had 18 infantry, 4 aa, and 2 armored cars. pretty much his entire starting army. when he came back he had just 6 infantry in the whole country (all still in DC), no aa and no ac. could have been 3 and 3 AA/AC. Plus the AT still in the provinces that produced them. and the starting int, but that was up in boston, where the starting airfield is. My memory isn't 100% on all of this but it was odd enough I really tried to remember. oh and there was no blast report from a nuke and no telltale nuke crater anywhere near DC.

      Paper also doesn't have any large naval vessels reported as being built either, and even now at day 11 no one has a lvl 3 naval base anywhere on the board. i don't think lvl 1 or 2 cruisers could have killed 12 units in about a day on a normal speed map, especially since that early on there wouldn't be time to have made very many. So a naval cause is highly remote.

      There was no rebellion or revolt, all his provinces are still his, nothing in the paper about it. His morale was about normal for a country not at war in the early stages of a match.

      So... must be the aliens.

      I will continue to be curious as to what actually happened though.

      (match number 3143361 if you are curious too...)

      Sorry, double checked my facts. there is one lvl 3 naval base, my other coalition member's. she hasn't built a single naval vessel the whole match though, nor moved beyond her borders in sweden. Right up until this morning when she went idle.

      The post was edited 1 time, last by Cuursed1: added match number ().

    • .. in earlier times of this game, patrolling planes could destroy neutral or even friendly units and buildings
      without trigger war ..
      .. and most knew nothing about this and wondered to death ..

      .. and rockets could shoot planes from the air, and... -- Oh yeah, sigh ,the good old days ..

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      The post was edited 1 time, last by Restrisiko ().

    • Same match, another player went inactive. I was at war with him at the time. I took a province that had 6 units in it, but they were not on the province center. I left them, and moved on. No one else is anywhere near those units. 2 stacks, 1 stack a single infantry. other stack 1 light tank, 1 aa, 3 infantry.

      Those units are slowly disappearing. First the single infantry was gone, plus the light tank and AA, leaving just 1 stack of 3 infantry. Now it is down to just 1 infantry. there are no other units anywhere nearby, USSR isn't at war with anyone but me. (france) USSR has exactly 1 unit remaining, and 2 provinces remaining.

      and of course, nothing shows up in the newspaper. no fighting, no rebellion/revolt, he isn't at war with anyone but me.

      Spain is the only other active player on the board, and he is taking English colony provinces in africa. (europe road to war scenario). We have an uneasy truce, with a pretty solid maginot line at our shared border.

      Is there some coding about number of provinces and number of units for an AI? What is going on? I know units from countries that have no provinces all disappear, but is there a gradual reduction as the number of owned provinces drops to very low? Perhaps having to do with them not being on a province center?

      The post was edited 1 time, last by Cuursed1 ().

    • My first thought is the AI units are wandering off. Likely they are wandering off and getting killed and the newspaper isn’t showing it for some reason.


      There is no limitation or reduction in force mechanic that fits your description.


      I’ll keep an eye out for similar experiences.
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    • I sent a plane to observe the road they were on, all the way to the province center at its end. My ally, Sweden, owns it. Sweden's units occupy the province center, and at the time of the observation had 100% health. 2 infantry units stationed there. No USSR units anywhere along the road.

      There isn't anywhere else for them to have wandered off to. Either my province center or Swedens are the only options.

      Its done now though. I took the last USSR province. All USSR units are now removed from the board.

      Thank you for keeping an eye out Vorlon.
    • Is it possible the disappearing units weren't getting fed? I understand barracks and harbors stop working when unsupplied... What exactly happens to units when that don't get enought resources? Do un-fed troops evaporate?
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    • Marching in Place wrote:

      Is it possible the disappearing units weren't getting fed? I understand barracks and harbors stop working when unsupplied... What exactly happens to units when that don't get enought resources? Do un-fed troops evaporate?
      No, that doesn’t happen.


      food shortages lead to province morale reduction and possibly province revolt.
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