Realistic WW2 Game # 2 Invite

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    • Realistic WW2 Game # 2 Invite

      You are invited to play 1939 Call of War games with us. This post is in the Role Playing section as it is frequented by players that are involved and care about realism, for the 1939 start game.

      GOALS & RULES:
      1. REALISTIC WW2 PLAY.
      2. CORRECT & FAIR SIDES.
      3. SERIOUSNESS.
      4. CORRECT ALLIANCES.
      5. NO CHEESE!
      6. APPROPRIATE START.
      7. PERMANANCY.
      8. ADVICE/ SHARING/ TEACHING.

      EXPLANATION OF GOALS & RULES:
      1. REALISTIC WW2 PLAY. Not an exact recreation of WW2, but following realistic possibilities from the 1939 start onwards.
      -The ALLIES or Neutrals may not attack Neutrals unless to defend them from the AXIS or Soviets.
      -Germany & the Soviets are initially allied.
      -The U.S.A. is initially a Neutral and a strict Isolationist.
      -Italy starts as a Neutral.
      -France may not attack Germany proper until after the Phony War on day 18 (18th ‘turn’ as per the research chart day).
      2. CORRECT ALLIANCES & COUNTRY SPECIFICS.
      -ALLIES: U.K. + France. France & U.K are allied and should immediately share maps.
      -AXIS: Initially Germany. Italy and Yugoslavia will join later.
      -USSR. The Soviets sent communist troops to the Spanish Civil War, therefore Spain may do the same and send volunteers to Russia and not be officially at war with the USSR nor the ALLIES. Sweden may defend Finland against the USSR and again, not be at war with the Soviets.
      Before the start of the game the Soviets and the Germans will have an agreement (Molotov-Ribbentrop) over the division of Poland and the Baltic States. Afterwards the Soviets and the Germans are officially allied.
      The USSR must wait until the summer of 1941 to attack the AXIS (this is day 6 [day 21 by the research chart days]).
      The Soviets are an eventual ALLIED side player. Enemies: Historically Finland (possibly Romania & Turkey?). Attacking Sweden, Norway, Bulgaria, etc., would make them an ENEMY of the ALLIES.
      -U.S.A. The U.S. becomes ALLIED day 7 (day 22 via the research chart- actually Dec.7, 1941), then may land troops at 06:00 game time turn 22(3 month ocean voyage to eastern hemisphere). The U.S. is restricted to pre-war navy of 1 active battleship and 3 mothballed/ inactive battleships. Not until the summer of 1941 (day 7 [day 22 by the research chart]) may the U.S. put their troops west of Iceland.
      -Italy. Italy is a Neutral in 1939. The western ALLIES may not declare war on Italy unless Italy declares war on Greece, Portugal or Poland.
      -Yugoslavia Neutral and is substituted for AXIS Romania. There are 1,224,691 Romanian soldiers that are strangely absent from CoW. If the Soviets declare war that activates Yugoslavia as an AXIS player, otherwise Yugo is activated 1 game day after Germany AXIS attacks Russia.
      -Pro-AXIS Spain. Activated upon the capture of Egypt, Levant & Cyprus (not counting Malta) & there is a CLEAR AXIS vs the British- talk to the game moderator.
      -Pro-AXIS Turkey. May not attack any countries until activated. Activated upon the capture of ALL capture of British territory in Egypt, Levant and Cyprus. The Turkish owned Bosporus is CLOSED to all traffic!
      -Strictly neutral Sweden.
      -Vichy France. If set-up by the AXIS, a set amount of the French forces, (called ‘Vichy’ France) will become an AXIS ally (a German Protectorate). The western ALLIES may attack the ‘neutral’ Vichy France. For specifics about a proposed Vichy, message the game moderator.
      -Portugal is an ALLIED member. Any attacks upon them is an attack on the ALLIES.
      3. SERIOUSNESS. Sadly, players often quit CoW. Hopefully players here will remain in games because they’ll show serious intent. Indicate your interest in reply posts or message me in CoW. We will post the countries taken and available for the next game in reply post here below.
      4. FAIR. These games should be low gold usage games. Some people WILL spend gold, however most are not here to win just by outspending others.
      5. NO CHEESE! Acceptable ‘right of ways’ in our games are:
      AXIS- Finland, Sweden (limited), Romania, Slovakia, Hungary and Bulgaria (not Spain).
      ALLIES- Belgium, Holland, Norway, Portugal, Denmark, Finland (ALLIES for defense vs. Russia ONLY). Sweden- Germany (to play Hungary/ Slovakia), Finland for defense vs. Russian ONLY.
      6. APPROPRIATE START:
      -U.K. can immediately take Canada (1.6 million citizens in military on the ALLIED side), Iceland upon fall of Copenhagen.
      -U.S.A. may take Cuba asap (an ALLIED member in 1941).
      -Slovakia & Hungary. Hungary declared war against the Soviets on 27 June 1941 and had a the 209,000-man-strong Second Army & the Slovakians 2 divisions. Both fought the USSR as reluctant AXIS members. Both should be played by either Germany or the Swedish player, as both in CoW are neutrals and NOT allied with the AXIS.
      7. PERMANANCY. We are trying to create a base of players that will have fun from game to game. We’re trying to get a core of nice, ‘normal,’ serious players to play CoW with.
      8. ADVICE/ SHARING/ TEACHING. We will always be glad to share CoW game advice, share our (limited) knowledge of game mechanics, and teach basic strategies to help create a fair & balanced gaming environment.

      Rules:
      -NO ROCKETS. Rockets were a terror weapon and are very over-valued in most games. They did miniscule industrial damage & virtually no troops were killed by them. Researching them for jets is ok.
      -The only countries that are allowed to use nuclear bombers is the U.S.A. and Germany (others 1952 & 1953). -No nukes at enemies that are engaged in combat (collateral damage).
      -No Nuclear subs or BBs. These are cold war era weapons (estimated 1950+).
      -No personal insults please. Hatred of, and comments about one’s enemy is ok.
      -Please don’t curse in the Newspaper.
      -Player’s using dirty usernames will not be allowed.

      REMINDERS:
      -NO ROCKETS.
      -You will be very welcome to our games. We will treat you with respect and honor.
      -If you are defeated and if the victor desires that arrangement, you may continue the game as a conquered minor. Details to be arranged by the conqueror at that point.
      - WE WILL RESTART a new game if the game is glitiching/ unplayable by anyone, players do not show up, drop, are very inactive, are uncooperative or under very strange circumstances.
      -If a player wishes to surrender please make it clear in the Newspaper.
      Please message me for next-game start times and a password. All games will be 10 player, free choice, 1939 games titled ‘AXIS vs ALLIES.’
    • Taken & available spots for the upcoming 1939 game.
      It will be a 1939, free choice named: 'Axis vs Allies'

      AXIS:
      Italy- ?
      Germany- ?
      Yugoslavia- ?
      (Hartmund & will be an AXIS)

      ALLIES:
      U.K.- KC Overlord
      U.S.A.- ?
      France- Sgt. Rock
      Soviet - ? (maybe Tibbile)

      Neutral:
      Sweden- ?

      Pro-AXIS:
      Spain- floki2
      Turkey- ?

      Interested Players: Sphere, MarshalTilen, RogodeterSnowl, and purplepizza117. Check in and choose your countries.

      I'm messaging the potential players (U.S., Soviet, France) for interest tonight. We're looking for serious players. If players give a conformation response, they'll get the available nation of their choice. 1st come, 1st serve.
    • Player Update for the upcoming 1939 game.
      It will be a 1939, free choice named: 'Axis vs Allies 2'

      ALLIES:
      U.K.- KC Overlord
      U.S.A.- ChinaMike (probably)
      France- Sgt. Rock
      Soviet - Tibbile

      AXIS:
      Italy- purplepizza117
      Germany- James Hartmund
      Yugoslavia- ? ? ?

      Pro-AXIS:
      Spain- ? ? ? *Note that Spain is Neutral, but plays 8 regiments against the Soviets (without officially being at war)
      Turkey- floki2

      Neutral:
      Sweden- ? ? ? *Note that the Swedish player plays plays Hungary & Slovakia & 2 defensive regiments [in Finland] (without officially being at war).

      Interested Players: MarshalTilen, Patfan76, RogodeterSnowl, Sphere.
      Player Notes: 'patfan76' has shown interest in Italy however purplepizza117 asked for Italy long ago. MarshalTilen has checked in twice (he should get 1st choice, but has not chosen a country)
      Check in asap and choose your countries. We'll do our best to respect the 1st come 1st serve.
      Thank you for your interest |:-)
    • Potential other things you could add due to historicity

      France, Britain, Norway and Sweden were all considering assisting Finland if the Winter war carried on longer. If Finland loses half it's territory France, Britain, Norway and Sweden should join against Russia

      Hungary should not join the Axis if it is not granted territory from Romania or Czechoslovakia, else it would regard joining Russia as better for it's future, Germany could have the option to refuse their assistance.

      Sweden should give transit rights to Denmark and Norway upon Germany attacking them, representing Partisans/escaped troops that Sweden secretly took in and trained.

      Spain should join the axis if Gibraltar is taken, Portugal then has the option of joining the allies if this happens

      Ireland should join the allies if any territory in the UK mainland is taken

      Upon Denmark losing it's home territory, it should donate it's Greenland territory to the USA

      Of course not all of that is representable unfortunately, but I would join if I were able to play as Hungary.

      Oh and if Hungary and Romania are both on the Axis side, they must leave some troops at each others borders and even declare an internal war if they see fit. Even whilst attacking the Soviet Union this rule MUST stay in place, tensions between both countries were extremely high. Due to German orders, neither side is allowed to fight with their armies side by side, else they would see armed conflict.
    • START TIME: 4PM CST (11PM GMT)

      It will be a 1939, free choice named: 'Axis vs Allies 2'
      Passwords will be sent via private message

      ALLIES:
      U.K.- KC Overlord
      U.S.A.- ChinaMike
      France- Sgt. Rock
      Soviet - Tibbile

      AXIS:
      Italy- purplepizza117
      Germany- James Hartmund
      Yugoslavia- MarshalTilen
      - The player 'RogodeterSnowl' said he "be there" (we're not sure as whom though)


      Pro-AXIS:
      Spain- ? ? ? *Note that Spain is Neutral, but plays 8 regiments against the Soviets (without officially being at war)
      Turkey- floki2


      Neutrals:
      Sweden- ? ? ? *Note that the Swedish player plays plays Hungary & Slovakia & 2 defensive regiments [in Finland] (without officially being at war).

      Interested Players: Patfan76, Sphere, DoLhades
      Player Notes: 'patfan76' has shown interest in Italy however purplepizza117 asked for Italy long ago.
      Check in asap and choose your countries. We'll do our best to respect the 1st come 1st serve.
      Thank you for your interest |:-)
    • Sir Dolhades,
      Thanks for the responses; you'll be most welcome to play Sweden (and therefore Hungary), but I can not seem to message you in the CoW message area. Of course I have sent the messages to: ' Dolhades ' but your name does not come up.
      I can put your Swedish/ Hungarian information here, but we won't share the password in public. SergeantRock tried to message you as well, again to ' DoLhades '- it wouldn't work for him either. Do you have any ideas of why we can't message you? ?(
      At the very worst we can put the password here in our forum post (in public) after all other 9 players have joined.
      Sweden is fairly simple, they:
      1. Are a strict Neutral.
      2. Play 2 'volunteer' regiments in the defense of Finland. As per the CoW rules you must be at war with the Soviets to do this. Sweden is not officially at war with Russia.
      3. Sweden also plays Hungary. Hungary is not a playable country in the 10 player or 22 player games. Sweden simply get's 'right of way' from Germany, moves through Germany and destroys/ takes out Hungary and starts producing their '2nd Hungarian Army' troops. Historically they had 209,000 troops fighting all the way up to Stalingrad.
      4. Only give right of way briefly to Germany (IF necessary) to allow them to get troops from Norway to Finland for example.
      Message me ' James Hartmund ' in the main CoW area if you can.
      Ttyl :)
    • To RogodeterSnowl in response to the Switzerland being neutral question:
      ~ This is as per our player 'Tibbile'
      He says that anyone that attacked Switzerland would basically put you at war with everyone. For example if Germany or Italy attacked Switzerland, they should have to declare war upon everyone in the map. Basically you would have to declare war upon everyone on the map, as you now have/ control their money. They are the 'World Bank;' All $ goes through them.
      So yes anyone can attack Switzerland, but it would cheese off EVERYONE.
      'John' alludes to the 4 prisoners of the movie, 'The Great Escape' that escaped to Switzerland (as well as many Jewish people) that escaped to Switzerland (some to Sweden) that Germany could do nothing about.