Silece means Security is one of the worst updates after 1.5

whowh wrote:

Comrade genz wrote:

zecevi123 really hates 1.5

He does.

Moss20 wrote:

I did not play 1.0. But I get the comments that people are saying.

But a game evolving is the way of life.
If you were to look at AoE or Civilization series, when they started and what they are now.. totally different games.

z00mz00m wrote:

It's too fast. And all you kids out there who prefer a fast-paced blood bath over a slower pace that requires communication, negotiation, and planning: Leave us alone. Why can't you enjoy your 5x and 10 pace games *and* allow us to enjoy what we like? In 1.0 it was possible for everyone to play the way the like. Now *every* game is fast and the choice is gone.

z00mz00m wrote:

whowh wrote:

Comrade genz wrote:

zecevi123 really hates 1.5

He does.

And he is right.

Not in this specific instance (publishing major unit deployments to a World Newspaper is dumb) but in the general sense that 1.5 is for people who spend a ton of gold and/or don't have a life.

It's too fast. And all you kids out there who prefer a fast-paced blood bath over a slower pace that requires communication, negotiation, and planning: Leave us alone. Why can't you enjoy your 5x and 10 pace games *and* allow us to enjoy what we like? In 1.0 it was possible for everyone to play the way the like. Now *every* game is fast and the choice is gone.

zecevi123 wrote:

BMfox wrote:

z00mz00m wrote:

It's too fast. And all you kids out there who prefer a fast-paced blood bath over a slower pace that requires communication, negotiation, and planning: Leave us alone. Why can't you enjoy your 5x and 10 pace games *and* allow us to enjoy what we like? In 1.0 it was possible for everyone to play the way the like. Now *every* game is fast and the choice is gone.

I've got the same amount of daily online time on 1.5 like I did on 1.0.In 1.0 it takes ages to build up and the first days are very boring. The first 8 days in 1.0 are almost always the same as there isn't a lot of access to different unit types.

In 1.5 theres stil communication, negotiation and plannig, or what did you think?

There's still a choice to be made: you can chose between 1.0 or a 1.5 game to play. 1.5 brought more variety into the game. Some prefere the 1.0 others prefer the 1.5. Play the game you prefere but stop crying your guts out in every thread that you find.

Yes 1.5 is faster, it's like playing a 2x speed, there's more unit choice so it's a nice variation of the game. You aren't obligated to play it and you can stick to the classic version so I don't see what all the fuzz is about.

Everyone has his own taste and preferences. 1.0 or 1.5 are not better nor worse, they are just different. Pick the one that you love and be done about it.

1.5 was made so you waste away your life on this. 1.5 was made in mind with Mobile while 1.0 was made in mind with PC. PC people cant be on their PC all day long but you can carry a mobile whole day. 1.5 was made to be advertised and spread to mobile p2w crowd. Thats why some units now have not logical defense values like interceptors for example and only good attacking value. Its made if you go offline for 8 hours to sleep you have a risk to lose everything because pretty much every unit now has worse defense value. Which makes defense useless. Like there were Interceptors in 1.0 who were good for defense and offense and there were rocket fighters who were bad at defense and AWESOME at offense. IN 1.5 Interceptor is good in offense and TERRIBLE in deffense same with Rocket fighter. And now the only diffrence between rocket fighters and interceptors is that one is faster and has smaller range and does bit more damage thats literally it. 1.5 killed strategy in this game now its all for you kids with no patience who want to conquer everybody while they are sleeping. ALSO if you want more proof that they made the 1.5 update intentionally to waste your entire day just look at late game units and how insanely fast they are. The speed of 1.5 late game units are insane you can literally lose your entire country in 10 hours if you are offline. This has been an intentional design choice made so you waste money on gold or waste your time on this game looking at ads.Some people might think 1.5 is in development and that they will improve these flaws and let me tell you THEY WONT they made this on purpose to get you hooked up so you think you are some strategy expert but in fact you just killed your enemy while he was sleeping or was doing something IRL and that was made on purpose so you lose crap ton of games and get lucky sometime and get a massive dopamine rush when your enemy goes to sleep and you kill all his units because combat speed was decreased and unit speed was massivley buffed. in 1.0 it was all about planning and in Invasions defense mattered. A good defense could keep an enemy occupied for tens of hours. If you want to win in 1.5 your life has to be Wake up,Eat,sh*t,play COW,Sleep and repeat. its terrible what they done and they have done it on purpose Bytro got very greedy but it wont last them long people will realize this and it will ultimately kill the game. What they should have done is introduce doctrines for 1.0 and keep the current economic system while slowly introducing new units and making new innovative events. Its also part of the reason why they didnt kill 1.0 immediately because we the veterans were keeping this game alive and when they released 1.5 it had a massive negative backlash and alot of the issues are still not addressed today. They used us 1.0 veterans to market and keep this game alive they told us to test the 1.5 and they will listen to feedback but what really happened is they used us as puppets so you 1.5 kiddies find this game after their massive advertising campaign on mobile and when you kiddies become 90% of the players they just shut down 1.0 because it makes no sense anymore since 1.5 is much more profitable.It was a scummy move and I will be mad about it. Also another thing about 1.5 kiddies is you have TERRIBLE IDEAS for example some dummy will come with some very very stupid idea they want to make a building for everything in the fricking world for example '' OMG GUYS WE NEED TO MAKE A BATHROOM BUILDING WHERE OUR TROOPS CAN TAKE A SH*T AND TO SUPPLY THAT BATHROOM BUILDING YOU NEED TO BUILD A TOILET PAPER FACTORY WHICH YOU NEED FACTORY WORKERS AND FACTORY WORKERS ARE A NEW RESOURCE YOU GET ONLY FROM THE CAPITAL IF YOU HAVE SH*tHOLE DOCTRINE!!! OMG WE NEED TO ADD THIS!!'' These terrible ideas pop up everyday and it seems that devs lisented to them because they are adding a building for every little fricking thing every troop now needs a building I remember when they said morale is too complicated for new players but they are adding like hundred buildings which could have been greatly simplified like in 1.0 and would have made a better system.This isnt a game anymore its a casino now. Many freemium games take this path and im always disappointed it never ends well trust me. There is a reason why they disabled 1.0 games to new players, they dont want them to know how good things used to be.

zecevi123 wrote:

BMfox wrote:

z00mz00m wrote:

It's too fast. And all you kids out there who prefer a fast-paced blood bath over a slower pace that requires communication, negotiation, and planning: Leave us alone. Why can't you enjoy your 5x and 10 pace games *and* allow us to enjoy what we like? In 1.0 it was possible for everyone to play the way the like. Now *every* game is fast and the choice is gone.

I've got the same amount of daily online time on 1.5 like I did on 1.0.In 1.0 it takes ages to build up and the first days are very boring. The first 8 days in 1.0 are almost always the same as there isn't a lot of access to different unit types.

In 1.5 theres stil communication, negotiation and plannig, or what did you think?

There's still a choice to be made: you can chose between 1.0 or a 1.5 game to play. 1.5 brought more variety into the game. Some prefere the 1.0 others prefer the 1.5. Play the game you prefere but stop crying your guts out in every thread that you find.

Yes 1.5 is faster, it's like playing a 2x speed, there's more unit choice so it's a nice variation of the game. You aren't obligated to play it and you can stick to the classic version so I don't see what all the fuzz is about.

Everyone has his own taste and preferences. 1.0 or 1.5 are not better nor worse, they are just different. Pick the one that you love and be done about it.

1.5 was made so you waste away your life on this. 1.5 was made in mind with Mobile while 1.0 was made in mind with PC. PC people cant be on their PC all day long but you can carry a mobile whole day. 1.5 was made to be advertised and spread to mobile p2w crowd. Thats why some units now have not logical defense values like interceptors for example and only good attacking value. Its made if you go offline for 8 hours to sleep you have a risk to lose everything because pretty much every unit now has worse defense value. Which makes defense useless. Like there were Interceptors in 1.0 who were good for defense and offense and there were rocket fighters who were bad at defense and AWESOME at offense. IN 1.5 Interceptor is good in offense and TERRIBLE in deffense same with Rocket fighter. And now the only diffrence between rocket fighters and interceptors is that one is faster and has smaller range and does bit more damage thats literally it. 1.5 killed strategy in this game now its all for you kids with no patience who want to conquer everybody while they are sleeping. ALSO if you want more proof that they made the 1.5 update intentionally to waste your entire day just look at late game units and how insanely fast they are. The speed of 1.5 late game units are insane you can literally lose your entire country in 10 hours if you are offline. This has been an intentional design choice made so you waste money on gold or waste your time on this game looking at ads.Some people might think 1.5 is in development and that they will improve these flaws and let me tell you THEY WONT they made this on purpose to get you hooked up so you think you are some strategy expert but in fact you just killed your enemy while he was sleeping or was doing something IRL and that was made on purpose so you lose crap ton of games and get lucky sometime and get a massive dopamine rush when your enemy goes to sleep and you kill all his units because combat speed was decreased and unit speed was massivley buffed. in 1.0 it was all about planning and in Invasions defense mattered. A good defense could keep an enemy occupied for tens of hours. If you want to win in 1.5 your life has to be Wake up,Eat,sh*t,play COW,Sleep and repeat. its terrible what they done and they have done it on purpose Bytro got very greedy but it wont last them long people will realize this and it will ultimately kill the game. What they should have done is introduce doctrines for 1.0 and keep the current economic system while slowly introducing new units and making new innovative events. Its also part of the reason why they didnt kill 1.0 immediately because we the veterans were keeping this game alive and when they released 1.5 it had a massive negative backlash and alot of the issues are still not addressed today. They used us 1.0 veterans to market and keep this game alive they told us to test the 1.5 and they will listen to feedback but what really happened is they used us as puppets so you 1.5 kiddies find this game after their massive advertising campaign on mobile and when you kiddies become 90% of the players they just shut down 1.0 because it makes no sense anymore since 1.5 is much more profitable.It was a scummy move and I will be mad about it. Also another thing about 1.5 kiddies is you have TERRIBLE IDEAS for example some dummy will come with some very very stupid idea they want to make a building for everything in the fricking world for example '' OMG GUYS WE NEED TO MAKE A BATHROOM BUILDING WHERE OUR TROOPS CAN TAKE A SH*T AND TO SUPPLY THAT BATHROOM BUILDING YOU NEED TO BUILD A TOILET PAPER FACTORY WHICH YOU NEED FACTORY WORKERS AND FACTORY WORKERS ARE A NEW RESOURCE YOU GET ONLY FROM THE CAPITAL IF YOU HAVE SH*tHOLE DOCTRINE!!! OMG WE NEED TO ADD THIS!!'' These terrible ideas pop up everyday and it seems that devs lisented to them because they are adding a building for every little fricking thing every troop now needs a building I remember when they said morale is too complicated for new players but they are adding like hundred buildings which could have been greatly simplified like in 1.0 and would have made a better system.This isnt a game anymore its a casino now. Many freemium games take this path and im always disappointed it never ends well trust me. There is a reason why they disabled 1.0 games to new players, they dont want them to know how good things used to be.

Comrade genz wrote:

Just a reminder 1.5 is the same speed as 1.0 not 10x faster. And if you don't like the game don't play it. Simple as that. Just don't post bad things about it in the forum. You're offending many player just doing that. Many veterans are saying they use the same play time with no change. And you lost 1.5 games right? That's why you're doing this cuz you're SALTY. And no you don't get invade in 8 hrs