Release Notes - 2023-06-27

Carking the 6th wrote:

_Pyth0n_ wrote:

Danieliyoverde123 wrote:

You right, but every allies thing is the strongest by late game xD (im exagerating but you got the point)

Ye but they have viable counters; allied tacs and strat bombers ---> AA or interceptors (mostly first option tbh), ground can be beat with better tactics, but ships are kinda iffy since the only "strategy" is convoy or sub stacking, since DD kill subs, CR kill planes and BB kill other ships

Honestly I’ve found AA surprisingly ineffective against massive plane stacks with 30+ high level planes. I end up either overwhelming them, or they waste so many of the enemies resources that their land army is weakened and I can overwhelm them by land.

_Pyth0n_ wrote:

Carking the 6th wrote:

_Pyth0n_ wrote:

Danieliyoverde123 wrote:

You right, but every allies thing is the strongest by late game xD (im exagerating but you got the point)

Ye but they have viable counters; allied tacs and strat bombers ---> AA or interceptors (mostly first option tbh), ground can be beat with better tactics, but ships are kinda iffy since the only "strategy" is convoy or sub stacking, since DD kill subs, CR kill planes and BB kill other ships

Honestly I’ve found AA surprisingly ineffective against massive plane stacks with 30+ high level planes. I end up either overwhelming them, or they waste so many of the enemies resources that their land army is weakened and I can overwhelm them by land.

starts choking
30 planes??? If you haven't killed your opponent by the time they get 30 high level planes then honestly you deserve to lose (PS: Spies and strat bombers exist. Destroy their industry. No need to overwhelm if you just destroy their industry)

Also you can just spam lvl 5 ints I suppose

Carking the 6th wrote:

_Pyth0n_ wrote:

Carking the 6th wrote:

_Pyth0n_ wrote:

Danieliyoverde123 wrote:

You right, but every allies thing is the strongest by late game xD (im exagerating but you got the point)

Ye but they have viable counters; allied tacs and strat bombers ---> AA or interceptors (mostly first option tbh), ground can be beat with better tactics, but ships are kinda iffy since the only "strategy" is convoy or sub stacking, since DD kill subs, CR kill planes and BB kill other ships

Honestly I’ve found AA surprisingly ineffective against massive plane stacks with 30+ high level planes. I end up either overwhelming them, or they waste so many of the enemies resources that their land army is weakened and I can overwhelm them by land.

starts choking30 planes??? If you haven't killed your opponent by the time they get 30 high level planes then honestly you deserve to lose (PS: Spies and strat bombers exist. Destroy their industry. No need to overwhelm if you just destroy their industry)

Also you can just spam lvl 5 ints I suppose

In the vast majority of my games I end up with multiple 20+ stacks. They are crazy strong. Combined with tanks and mot infantry on the ground, and basically nothing can stop them. Strats can be an issue, but I usually can use spies of my own, interceptors and one time nukes to neutralize them. Make sure to upgrade your airstrips, to stop spies.

_Pyth0n_ wrote:

Artillery + AA will stop that, but that ain't the point of this thread

Carking the 6th wrote:

_Pyth0n_ wrote:

Artillery + AA will stop that, but that ain't the point of this thread

The Issue with this is that the AA is so slow that it allows your land units to move in and wipe out the stack on land, or the AA is too weak where my planes overwhelm them and wipe out the stack anyway.
I mean I feel like we’ve moved on from the main topic; there is nothing wrong with diverging just a little

Carking the 6th wrote:

My point was that either they are too weak and get destroyed by planes, or their land is too weak and they get destroyed there. It’s like a catch 22. Use mot infantry and tanks on land and planes in air. Quite nice.

_Pyth0n_ wrote:

And I think 6thDragon or someone else mentioned this; commandos need a buff pleaseeeeee I beg devs give us the +1 stealth boost

_Pyth0n_ wrote:

Carking the 6th wrote:

My point was that either they are too weak and get destroyed by planes, or their land is too weak and they get destroyed there. It’s like a catch 22. Use mot infantry and tanks on land and planes in air. Quite nice.

Bruh but your SBDE is in the incinerator after that; why suffer unnecessary casualties? Also TDs will kill all tanks and still not die to mot inf so o7

K.Rokossovski wrote:

_Pyth0n_ wrote:

And I think 6thDragon or someone else mentioned this; commandos need a buff pleaseeeeee I beg devs give us the +1 stealth boost

+1 isn't enough. As discussed in a different thread, it needs to be +2 to make them up-to-date to their introduction day.

Carking the 6th wrote:

_Pyth0n_ wrote:

Carking the 6th wrote:

My point was that either they are too weak and get destroyed by planes, or their land is too weak and they get destroyed there. It’s like a catch 22. Use mot infantry and tanks on land and planes in air. Quite nice.

Bruh but your SBDE is in the incinerator after that; why suffer unnecessary casualties? Also TDs will kill all tanks and still not die to mot inf so o7

I’ve faced many stacks with multiple AA, TD’s, Tanks, Infantry, you name it. In high numbers and high level. Basically every time it ends with the enemy destroyed and my forces have 80%+ of their health left. AA just loses out to overwhelming tac bombs+strong land forces.

_Pyth0n_ wrote:

K.Rokossovski wrote:

_Pyth0n_ wrote:

And I think 6thDragon or someone else mentioned this; commandos need a buff pleaseeeeee I beg devs give us the +1 stealth boost

+1 isn't enough. As discussed in a different thread, it needs to be +2 to make them up-to-date to their introduction day.

One small step at a time my friend. Once we get the +1, we'll ask for the +2 (But agree that +2 is necessary lol)

Carking the 6th wrote:

_Pyth0n_ wrote:

Carking the 6th wrote:

My point was that either they are too weak and get destroyed by planes, or their land is too weak and they get destroyed there. It’s like a catch 22. Use mot infantry and tanks on land and planes in air. Quite nice.

Bruh but your SBDE is in the incinerator after that; why suffer unnecessary casualties? Also TDs will kill all tanks and still not die to mot inf so o7

I’ve faced many stacks with multiple AA, TD’s, Tanks, Infantry, you name it. In high numbers and high level. Basically every time it ends with the enemy destroyed and my forces have 80%+ of their health left. AA just loses out to overwhelming tac bombs+strong land forces.

Let's do a battle someday I can actually play actively, you with your tacs and zooming mot inf and tanks against my artillery, AA, TDs, ints, strats and inf/ACs

Carking the 6th wrote:

_Pyth0n_ wrote:

K.Rokossovski wrote:

_Pyth0n_ wrote:

And I think 6thDragon or someone else mentioned this; commandos need a buff pleaseeeeee I beg devs give us the +1 stealth boost

+1 isn't enough. As discussed in a different thread, it needs to be +2 to make them up-to-date to their introduction day.

One small step at a time my friend. Once we get the +1, we'll ask for the +2 (But agree that +2 is necessary lol)

Carking the 6th wrote:

_Pyth0n_ wrote:

Carking the 6th wrote:

My point was that either they are too weak and get destroyed by planes, or their land is too weak and they get destroyed there. It’s like a catch 22. Use mot infantry and tanks on land and planes in air. Quite nice.

Bruh but your SBDE is in the incinerator after that; why suffer unnecessary casualties? Also TDs will kill all tanks and still not die to mot inf so o7

I’ve faced many stacks with multiple AA, TD’s, Tanks, Infantry, you name it. In high numbers and high level. Basically every time it ends with the enemy destroyed and my forces have 80%+ of their health left. AA just loses out to overwhelming tac bombs+strong land forces.

Let's do a battle someday I can actually play actively, you with your tacs and zooming mot inf and tanks against my artillery, AA, TDs, ints, strats and inf/ACs

Woah who said I wouldn’t use artillery?

_Pyth0n_ wrote:

Carking the 6th wrote:

_Pyth0n_ wrote:

K.Rokossovski wrote:

_Pyth0n_ wrote:

And I think 6thDragon or someone else mentioned this; commandos need a buff pleaseeeeee I beg devs give us the +1 stealth boost

+1 isn't enough. As discussed in a different thread, it needs to be +2 to make them up-to-date to their introduction day.

One small step at a time my friend. Once we get the +1, we'll ask for the +2 (But agree that +2 is necessary lol)

Carking the 6th wrote:

_Pyth0n_ wrote:

Carking the 6th wrote:

My point was that either they are too weak and get destroyed by planes, or their land is too weak and they get destroyed there. It’s like a catch 22. Use mot infantry and tanks on land and planes in air. Quite nice.

Bruh but your SBDE is in the incinerator after that; why suffer unnecessary casualties? Also TDs will kill all tanks and still not die to mot inf so o7

I’ve faced many stacks with multiple AA, TD’s, Tanks, Infantry, you name it. In high numbers and high level. Basically every time it ends with the enemy destroyed and my forces have 80%+ of their health left. AA just loses out to overwhelming tac bombs+strong land forces.

Let's do a battle someday I can actually play actively, you with your tacs and zooming mot inf and tanks against my artillery, AA, TDs, ints, strats and inf/ACs

Woah who said I wouldn’t use artillery?

You insinuated you would only use planes, mot inf and tanks; that was the point of this debate ._.

Carking the 6th wrote:

_Pyth0n_ wrote:

Carking the 6th wrote:

_Pyth0n_ wrote:

K.Rokossovski wrote:

_Pyth0n_ wrote:

And I think 6thDragon or someone else mentioned this; commandos need a buff pleaseeeeee I beg devs give us the +1 stealth boost

+1 isn't enough. As discussed in a different thread, it needs to be +2 to make them up-to-date to their introduction day.

One small step at a time my friend. Once we get the +1, we'll ask for the +2 (But agree that +2 is necessary lol)

Carking the 6th wrote:

_Pyth0n_ wrote:

Carking the 6th wrote:

My point was that either they are too weak and get destroyed by planes, or their land is too weak and they get destroyed there. It’s like a catch 22. Use mot infantry and tanks on land and planes in air. Quite nice.

Bruh but your SBDE is in the incinerator after that; why suffer unnecessary casualties? Also TDs will kill all tanks and still not die to mot inf so o7

I’ve faced many stacks with multiple AA, TD’s, Tanks, Infantry, you name it. In high numbers and high level. Basically every time it ends with the enemy destroyed and my forces have 80%+ of their health left. AA just loses out to overwhelming tac bombs+strong land forces.

Let's do a battle someday I can actually play actively, you with your tacs and zooming mot inf and tanks against my artillery, AA, TDs, ints, strats and inf/ACs

Woah who said I wouldn’t use artillery?

You insinuated you would only use planes, mot inf and tanks; that was the point of this debate ._.

But I didn’t mean that!! I meant that against AA, along with a good amount of melee units in the stack stack, planes mot infantry and tanks can get past their defenses.

_Pyth0n_ wrote:

Carking the 6th wrote:

_Pyth0n_ wrote:

Carking the 6th wrote:

_Pyth0n_ wrote:

K.Rokossovski wrote:

_Pyth0n_ wrote:

And I think 6thDragon or someone else mentioned this; commandos need a buff pleaseeeeee I beg devs give us the +1 stealth boost

+1 isn't enough. As discussed in a different thread, it needs to be +2 to make them up-to-date to their introduction day.

One small step at a time my friend. Once we get the +1, we'll ask for the +2 (But agree that +2 is necessary lol)

Carking the 6th wrote:

_Pyth0n_ wrote:

Carking the 6th wrote:

My point was that either they are too weak and get destroyed by planes, or their land is too weak and they get destroyed there. It’s like a catch 22. Use mot infantry and tanks on land and planes in air. Quite nice.

Bruh but your SBDE is in the incinerator after that; why suffer unnecessary casualties? Also TDs will kill all tanks and still not die to mot inf so o7

I’ve faced many stacks with multiple AA, TD’s, Tanks, Infantry, you name it. In high numbers and high level. Basically every time it ends with the enemy destroyed and my forces have 80%+ of their health left. AA just loses out to overwhelming tac bombs+strong land forces.

Let's do a battle someday I can actually play actively, you with your tacs and zooming mot inf and tanks against my artillery, AA, TDs, ints, strats and inf/ACs

Woah who said I wouldn’t use artillery?

You insinuated you would only use planes, mot inf and tanks; that was the point of this debate ._.

But I didn’t mean that!! I meant that against AA, along with a good amount of melee units in the stack stack, planes mot infantry and tanks can get past their defenses.

Mm I see, I feel it depends on doctrine and how high level AA is, but I still feel AA in general will outclass tac bombers, but I see your point

Geden wrote:

And with that we come to the bug fixes for this week. Enjoyers of sub-surface warfare rejoice! Submarines are no longer visible even when undetected. We also fixed a bug that caused stealth units to become visible when stacked with non-stealth units.

DxC wrote:

Geden wrote:

And with that we come to the bug fixes for this week. Enjoyers of sub-surface warfare rejoice! Submarines are no longer visible even when undetected. We also fixed a bug that caused stealth units to become visible when stacked with non-stealth units.

On the topic of units that should not be revealed here is another example. It seems that maybe my transport ship is getting too much view range. I think similar examples have been posted.