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    • I know everyone wants carriers and it would be cool, but lets face it guys, really the only famous one from the Atlantic was the HMS Ark Royal. Carriers played as much a role in the Atlantic as Hitler's V3 cannon did on England, or nukes did in the European campaign. For that reason I believe they will give us the carriers. When really a game changer would be more a train a suggested or troop air transports. I am still really hung up on an earlier idea I had for suggested upgrades, which would be mines, mine sweepers, and land mines. Really small items that will change the way the game is played. In case you did not know about the Vergeltungswaffe wepon III. It was a cannon capable of firing shells all the way to London England
    • yea see that is why I think that its not carriers

      cos it was a pic of Ike, and Churchill
      wasnt much Carriers over there

      but Id say im overthinking it
      it prob carriers, as they are big...

      and will really only change tactics in the world map

      not much need in the other maps as they all smaller

      I really am excited for them do
      think it will make sea borne invasions great

      cant wait..



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    • Aircraft carriers would add a new strategic dimension. Adding logistics, like rail lines or supply or landing craft, would be a tactical thing and hard to make as a balanced addition. You can fortify a city, so engineers that could lessen their effectiveness by a level is adding some balance to an existing mechanism. Adding aircraft carriers would make ports more important as bombing targets.
      Personally, I think carriers would be fun, but the reason only the Ark Royal was famous wasn't because it was the only one, it was because Britain is an island and some European countries lack a coast. The game plays a bit loose with the countries to balance the game and only small countries are land-locked. Still, aircraft carriers wouldn't be much of anything but a target in places like the Baltic and Black seas.
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    • Sir McSquiggles wrote:

      Isnt that what Mr Johan said? XD
      Not quite Squigs! There is a pretty big difference between a massive hydra bomber and a helicarrier ;)
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    • A flying carrier.......
      "A wise commander never goes into battle without a retreat plan" - an obscure officer.
      "Good they can use it when they face me, and ditch it when proved useless!' - me

      "A battle plan will always fail first contact with the enemy."

      "Never march on Moscow!" "Of course not! You will freeze!"
      "Don't fight with your land armies in China! " "Are you kidding me? I'll get swarmed!"
    • Sir McSquiggles wrote:

      CrimsonKing116 wrote:

      Not quite Squigs! There is a pretty big difference between a massive hydra bomber and a helicarrier
      Hmm what is the helicarrier then...
      "You have enemies? Good. That means you stood up for something, sometime in your life" -Winston Churchill

      "Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake"
      -Napoleon Bonaparte

      "Alcohol may be man's worst enemy, but the Bible says love your enemy"
      -Frank Sinatra

      "The last man who attacked me lived a half-life, so comrade come at me"
      -ERB Putin

      Your friendly neighborhood War enthusiast,
      CrimsonKing :thumbsup: :beer: :evil:
    • Definitely Aircraft Carriers.
      Victory at all costs, victory in spite of all terror, victory however long and hard the road may be; for without victory, there is no survival.
      -Winston Churchill

      Attack rapidly, ruthlessly, viciously, without rest, however tired and hungry you may be, the enemy will be more tired, more hungry. Keep punching.
      -George S. Patton
    • It's definitely aircraft carrier. Look at the achievement "Visionary".
      Victory at all costs, victory in spite of all terror, victory however long and hard the road may be; for without victory, there is no survival.
      -Winston Churchill

      Attack rapidly, ruthlessly, viciously, without rest, however tired and hungry you may be, the enemy will be more tired, more hungry. Keep punching.
      -George S. Patton
    • First Aircraft carriers changed warfare FOREVER! The Aircraft carriers were here but had bugs. So doe's Caeser the dog whisperer! Ouch, too soon?
      Moving on.
      The main and most hindering factor of the whole game is Speed! Airborne troops can be on the ground in enemy provinces in minutes.
      Why do we wait for hours to occupy important objectives?!
      Aircraft Carriers are essential to the Pacific, without them, why even play as Japan? Even Axis and Allies the board game has Aircraft carriers!
      People pay ridiculous amounts of money for gold. The financial means are there. Get to WORK! I can set up my board game, have snacks and drinks ready for my fellow gamers before a armored car can capture a hard fought, time consuming, and expensive objective. I am patient, and pay for high command to utilize the queue. And yes, I am a veteran of the Us Army, 16R, 16S, airborne combat veteran. Give me a perfectly good airplane, and I'll jump out of it knowing I'm going to be surrounded, but victorious!
    • The American Gato Class and up should have a bonus of some kind. These boats all had air conditioning, refrigerated storage for food, fresh water distilling units, clothes washers, and bunks for nearly every crew member; luxuries virtually unheard of in other navies. The Bureau designers felt that if a crew of 60–80 men were to be expected to conduct 75-day patrols in the warm waters of the Pacific, these types of features were vital to the health and efficiency of the crew. They could be added without impact to the boat's war fighting abilities due to the extra room of the big fleet boat. However, one feature in particular had a very practical side to it. Submerge a submarine for any length of time and the heat generated by the recently shut down engines, electronic gear, and 70 warm bodies will quickly raise internal temperatures above 100 Fahrenheit. High humidity generated by tropical waters will quickly condense and begin dripping into equipment, eventually causing electrical shorts and fires. Air conditioning, acting mostly as a dehumidifier, virtually eliminates this problem and greatly increases mechanical and electrical reliability. It proved to be a key factor in the success of these boats during World War II
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      MarcusGracchus wrote:

      The American Gato Class and up should have a bonus of some kind. These boats all had air conditioning, refrigerated storage for food, fresh water distilling units, clothes washers, and bunks for nearly every crew member; luxuries virtually unheard of in other navies. The Bureau designers felt that if a crew of 60–80 men were to be expected to conduct 75-day patrols in the warm waters of the Pacific, these types of features were vital to the health and efficiency of the crew. They could be added without impact to the boat's war fighting abilities due to the extra room of the big fleet boat. However, one feature in particular had a very practical side to it. Submerge a submarine for any length of time and the heat generated by the recently shut down engines, electronic gear, and 70 warm bodies will quickly raise internal temperatures above 100 Fahrenheit. High humidity generated by tropical waters will quickly condense and begin dripping into equipment, eventually causing electrical shorts and fires. Air conditioning, acting mostly as a dehumidifier, virtually eliminates this problem and greatly increases mechanical and electrical reliability. It proved to be a key factor in the success of these boats during World War II







      you know you stuff,
      I like a guy who knows there stuff :P

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      -Friedrich von Haye


    • MarcusGracchus wrote:

      First Aircraft carriers changed warfare FOREVER! The Aircraft carriers were here but had bugs. So doe's Caeser the dog whisperer! Ouch, too soon?
      Moving on.
      The main and most hindering factor of the whole game is Speed! Airborne troops can be on the ground in enemy provinces in minutes.
      Why do we wait for hours to occupy important objectives?!
      Aircraft Carriers are essential to the Pacific, without them, why even play as Japan? Even Axis and Allies the board game has Aircraft carriers!
      People pay ridiculous amounts of money for gold. The financial means are there. Get to WORK! I can set up my board game, have snacks and drinks ready for my fellow gamers before a armored car can capture a hard fought, time consuming, and expensive objective. I am patient, and pay for high command to utilize the queue. And yes, I am a veteran of the Us Army, 16R, 16S, airborne combat veteran. Give me a perfectly good airplane, and I'll jump out of it knowing I'm going to be surrounded, but victorious!

      This is a game of patience and strategy, not some flashy game that can be over in a frenzy.
      Sincerely, wildL
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