The Un-Offical Aircraft Carrier thread!

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    • The Un-Offical Aircraft Carrier thread!

      Fleet CarrierUN-OFFICAL AIRCRAFT CARRIER THREAD!

      Huge thread from last year, suggest you read this. RIP to everyone on there thats no longer part of CoW

      We get a thread about the Carriers everything damn week, and its always the same god-damn thing: no actual ideas or points put forward, just "I needz Aircraft carrierz coz they r powerful."

      This ends today. I, Tank Buster, known as 'LordStark01' on the game, a level 49- can no longer take this pointless thread making. If a mod would sticky this or what ever, it woudl save alot of time and other Carrier threads.

      Carriers to research
      As CoW will be using these huge warmachines to show your global might.

      Types of Carriers!

      World war Two was witness to several types of carrier, though the types of Carriers today are usual bound into two types, here I will discuss what types of carriers were used during the war- and your opinions on whether we should have multiple types of carrier units.

      • Escort Carriers: Used as cheap carriers, slow, not very well armoured and only carried a few aircraft. However, during the war, the USN (calling them Baby flattop) Royal Navy (Woolworth Carriers) and the IJN made use of these.These would be the 'Militia' unit of the sea. As a historical note, it always amazes me that neither the Kriegsmarine or Red Navy used these.
      • Fleet Carrier: A standard issue, all round, jack of all trades, Carrier. Its beyond standard, having no out standing features, its not as quick as a light carrier nor packing the same punch as a super carrier. Used by the IJN, USN and RN- Both the Italian Navy and KM had these in the works.
      • The Mighty Light Carrier- Think light tank of the sea. These beasts could carry a modest amount on Aircraft, little armour- but these rapid reactions units helped the UN in taking over Korean Airspace in the war. Also, while not strictly WW2 (but due to the lovely soviets, I can use this example) The Falklands War showed what three light carriers could do: rapid reaction, air-dominance and victory.

      • Super-carriers! Heavy Armour, large amount of planes- giant ~"fire a torpedo at me please" sign to round it off. HMS Ark Royal was the worlds first super carrier, and since then, things got bigger.


      While I could add more, we enter the realm of Amphibious ships and Soviet Cold war designs: which would take an entire new thread to convince people to allow us to use proto-type carriers from the 60's and 70's- mostly for the Red Navy.


      Note- The Russian Nuclear Battleship, the Kirov II, is a missile- Battle Cruiser, the largest non-Carrier ship in the world. The Russians are refitting these beasts ATM.
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      The post was edited 3 times, last by TankBuster ().

    • This Idea is great, and I wholeheartedly agree. This issue needs to be solved once and for all. In my opinion though, There should be 2 tech trees for carriers, one the light carrier, and the other the fleet carrier. This would have the light for rapid response, and the Fleet for invasions and prepared naval battles. There should also be a nuclear carrier that is as fast as a light carrier, but as powerful as a fleet carrier. This would bring more of a focus towards the navy and still have great variations for different situations.
      However, this also raises the question of Cruisers. In the Second World War there were two classes of cruisers: The Heavy cruiser and the Light Cruiser. These would be better at defeating aircraft, but the Heavy Cruisers were slower and more powerfully armed. And on the note of other ships, There could be replaced for the Royal Navy from Destroyers to Frigates, as the Royal Navy referred to their Destroyers as Frigates.
      Aircraft Carriers should come along with a Pacific only map, with the allies, the axis, and the Soviet Union. However, finding a German Aircraft Carrier would be difficult, as the few ever even prototyped were made from older battleships, and those were destroyed in 1947. There are few Carriers for the Soviet Union to speak of before the cold war, so this game would spill into the aftermath.

      The post was edited 1 time, last by crazynamedperson ().

    • Germany did have a carrier though, its even linked there...
      "If the tanks succeed, then victory follows."- H.Guderian

      "Hit first ! Hit hard ! Keep on hitting ! ! (The 3 H's)" Admiral Jackie Fisher

      "The 3 Requisites for Success – Ruthless, Relentless, Remorseless(The 3 R's)" Admiral Fisher

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    • On the up side, at least people are discussing the carriers here instead of making thirty other posts....
      "If the tanks succeed, then victory follows."- H.Guderian

      "Hit first ! Hit hard ! Keep on hitting ! ! (The 3 H's)" Admiral Jackie Fisher

      "The 3 Requisites for Success – Ruthless, Relentless, Remorseless(The 3 R's)" Admiral Fisher

      Crates: a Term used to define any unwanted and unneeded feature in CoW

      Game Username: LordStark01
    • Quasi thinks it was stickied for a reason.Quasi was reading old thread, should planes be fighter-bombers and NB and int or all types of planes, leaving out the fighter-bombers?
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    • Carriers should probably only not have strategic bombers, and a penalty for planes should be decreased range and firepower. If the plane is launched from a carrier,than it should have 1/3 less range and 1/4 less firepower. It should also be that you can't produce planes on them. This would limit carriers and keep people from spamming them. And the Nazi carrier was the Graf Zepplinn, an old battleship that was converted to a carrier.

    • The links to carriers are in the main post.

      I don't think we should curb the power on Carriers, as Carrier based fighters won the Korean air war
      "If the tanks succeed, then victory follows."- H.Guderian

      "Hit first ! Hit hard ! Keep on hitting ! ! (The 3 H's)" Admiral Jackie Fisher

      "The 3 Requisites for Success – Ruthless, Relentless, Remorseless(The 3 R's)" Admiral Fisher

      Crates: a Term used to define any unwanted and unneeded feature in CoW

      Game Username: LordStark01
    • Quasi-duck wrote:

      crazynamedperson wrote:

      the Nazi carrier was the Graf Zepplinn, an old battleship that was converted to a carrier
      Untrue, as far as Quasi knows it was purpose built.
      I am sorry, I did not do enough research. From what i have read thus far, It was purpose built but never finished. I only assumed that it was a battleship conversion because it is popular to do so during the time. I apologize for my inaccuracy, and thanks for double checking me, as the Kreigsmarine has never been my specialty.

    • crazynamedperson wrote:

      I am sorry, I did not do enough research. From what i have read thus far, It was purpose built but never finished. I only assumed that it was a battleship conversion because it is popular to do so during the time. I apologize for my inaccuracy, and thanks for double checking me, as the Kreigsmarine has never been my specialty.
      Quasi thanks you!
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    • Interesting thread.


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