D-Day: We Shall Never Forget

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    • D-Day: We Shall Never Forget

      Exactly eighty years ago today, joint forces of the Allied Nations of the world commenced a Great Crusade to liberate the oppressed peoples of Europe and restore liberty and democracy to the continent. For the previous four years, most of the European nations had fallen under an axis of darkness, their freedom replaced with totalitarianism, their joyfulness replaced with fear. But not all hope was lost. For the Allied peoples of all backgrounds, all creeds, had come together to fight as one force, to resist the evil plague known as Nazism. These people would never quit, because they were strong people with strong roots, because their love for freedom could never be extinguished. Even against all odds, even as the enemy threw everything they had at them, they persevered. And in 1944, they were ready to liberate their captured brothers, their subdued cousins. But they knew that it would not be an easy task. To establish a beachhead where the enemy has the high ground, even if they may be outnumbered, would come at the cost of thousands of lives. Thousands of brave men and women who each had their own families, friends, loved ones. But they were ready to put it all on the line for the preservation of freedom and democracy. And so they pressured on. After fierce fighting and heavy bloodshed, the beachhead was won. And, in time, it would be more than just the beachhead the was won by the Allied Nations. Over the next months, the fallen peoples of Europe were set free from the dark hand of Nazism. And it couldn’t have happened without the millions of brave and passionate people who put everything on the line to fight in the name of justice and democracy.

      Since then, the world has seen another major war — this one not fought with weapons but with ideologies. Many new nations have been founded as the results of spirited peoples movements for liberation. But still, 80 years later, the world remembers the sacrifices that these brave men and women showed on the frontlines. Representing democracy in the face of tyranny, they fought. They fought for what they believed in: a world where all peoples are free from oppression and imperialism and are able to enjoy the fulfillment of a peaceful, free world.

      As said by General Dwight Eisenhower, “The eyes of the world are upon you. The hopes and dreams of liberty-loving people everywhere march with you.” It was never truer than on June 6, 1944.
      “Faith is a bluebird you see from afar. It’s as sure and as true as the first evening star. You can’t touch it, or buy it, or wrap it up tight, but it’s there, just the same, making things turn out right.”

      Stay Sweet!
    • D-day was indeed a heroic achievement but people often forget to mention Operation Bagration, which was launched on 22nd June 1944 by the USSR. This offensive lead to the worst defeat the Nazis ever suffered. D-day would have proved way more bloodier and difficult if it wasn't for the USSR to attack simultaneously.
      Anyways, may the dead rest in peace.
      "We can be wrong, or we can know it, but we can't do both at the same time." ~ Heisenberg

      SENIOR ELECTION MANAGER
      HEAD OF THE FPD
    • We shall never forget WW2 yes, before and after...
      The Allies did a tremendous job on D-Day and yes the USSR should maybe also get recognition for their part in WW2.But what would've been the outcome if Stalin/Soviets did not decide to turn on the Nazis?Can anyone imagine a world run by Nazis and Communists? Stalin/Soviet did liberate countries from Nazism but replaced it with Communism... it's like going from bad to worse...
      What we shall never forget is the nightmare of Hitler and the Nazis and the nightmare of Stalin and the Soviets(communists) prior to WW2...

      The history of the Soviet Union between 1927 and 1953 covers the period in Soviet history from the establishment of Stalinism through victory in the Second World War and down to the death of Joseph Stalin in 1953. Stalin sought to destroy his enemies while transforming Soviet society with central planning, in particular through the forced collectivization of agriculture and rapid development of heavy industry. Stalin consolidated his power within the party and the state and fostered an extensive cult of personality. Soviet secret-police and the mass-mobilization of the Communist Party served as Stalin's major tools in molding Soviet society. Stalin's methods in achieving his goals, which included party purges, ethnic cleansings, political repression of the general population, and forced collectivization, led to millions of deaths: in Gulag labor camps and during famine.

      Great Purge. As this process unfolded, Stalin consolidated near-absolute power by destroying the potential opposition. In 1936–1938, about three quarters of a million Soviets were executed, and more than a million others were sentenced to lengthy terms in harsh labour camps.
    • Vanrendo wrote:

      But what would've been the outcome if Stalin/Soviets did not decide to turn on the Nazis?
      Well, the soviets didn't turn on the Nazis, the Nazis did betray them and attacked them on 22nd June 1941 and speaking realistically, this would have happened for sure. The soviet-nazi alliance would easily break.

      Vanrendo wrote:

      Stalin/Soviet did liberate countries from Nazism but replaced it with Communism... it's like going from bad to worse...
      Wow, that is absolutely wrong. Communism was indeed an evil system, but it wasn't as evil as Nazism! The conditions of those countries improved, the people of Eastern europe could now live without the fear of dying every single moment.
      Well of course, the civic liberties in Soviet rule decreased, they lost a lot of political freedom, but it was still better than what they had under the Nazis, at least the Eastern europeans weren't considered as sub-humans anymore.

      Vanrendo wrote:

      USSR should maybe also get recognition for their part in WW2
      Maybe? Do you even recognize the fact that the USSR alone killed 80% of the Nazis? 8 out of 10 Nazis died on the Eastern front.

      If you think that the allies alone would have managed to defeat Nazis, then you are wrong, they would have failed. Nukes? Well, the Germans had Werner Heisenberg(Oppeneheimer saw him as more capable than himself) , one of the greatest physicist of all times on their side, say USA nuked Germany, the Germans would of course not surrender instead would have speed up their Nuclear research and might have developed their own nuclear bomb. Do remember that the Germans were the first to build the jet fighter and the rocket (Credit goes to Werher von Braun, he worked for NASA after the war). Resources would have certainly been a problem on the German side.

      Say that the Nazis managed to defeat USSR, in that case, it was game over for allies. With all those soviet resources, the German tech and military would be impossible to stop.

      Vanrendo wrote:

      What we shall never forget is the nightmare of Hitler and the Nazis and the nightmare of Stalin and the Soviets(communists) prior to WW2...
      I agree with you, we shall never forget the kristallnacht, the purges and similar stuff.
      However, we shall also not forget the heroic sacrifice of the Soviet people in defeating Nazi Germany.

      Vanrendo wrote:

      The history of the Soviet Union between 1927 and 1953 covers the period in Soviet history from the establishment of Stalinism through victory in the Second World War and down to the death of Joseph Stalin in 1953
      Stalinism started before the victory of USSR in ww2. It started from 1927 and yea, it did end with his death.
      "We can be wrong, or we can know it, but we can't do both at the same time." ~ Heisenberg

      SENIOR ELECTION MANAGER
      HEAD OF THE FPD

      The post was edited 2 times, last by Joe Bartolozzi ().

    • Joe Bartolozzi wrote:

      Vanrendo wrote:

      But what would've been the outcome if Stalin/Soviets did not decide to turn on the Nazis?
      Well, the soviets didn't turn on the Nazis, the Nazis did betray them and attacked them on 22nd June 1941 and speaking realistically, this would have happened for sure. The soviet-nazi alliance would easily break.

      Vanrendo wrote:

      Stalin/Soviet did liberate countries from Nazism but replaced it with Communism... it's like going from bad to worse...
      Wow, that is absolutely wrong. Communism was indeed an evil system, but it wasn't as evil as Nazism! The conditions of those countries improved, the people of Eastern europe could now live without the fear of dying every single moment.Well of course, the civic liberties in Soviet rule decreased, they lost a lot of political freedom, but it was still better than what they had under the Nazis, at least the Eastern europeans weren't considered as sub-humans anymore.

      Vanrendo wrote:

      USSR should maybe also get recognition for their part in WW2
      Maybe? Do you even recognize the fact that the USSR alone killed 80% of the Nazis? 8 out of 10 Nazis died on the Eastern front.
      If you think that the allies alone would have managed to defeat Nazis, then you are wrong, they would have failed. Nukes? Well, the Germans had Werner Heisenberg(Oppeneheimer saw him as more capable than himself) , one of the greatest physicist of all times on their side, say USA nuked Germany, the Germans would of course not surrender instead would have speed up their Nuclear research and might have developed their own nuclear bomb. Do remember that the Germans were the first to build the jet fighter and the rocket (Credit goes to Werher von Braun, he worked for NASA after the war). Resources would have certainly been a problem on the German side.

      Say that the Nazis managed to defeat USSR, in that case, it was game over for allies. With all those soviet resources, the German tech and military would be impossible to stop.

      Vanrendo wrote:

      What we shall never forget is the nightmare of Hitler and the Nazis and the nightmare of Stalin and the Soviets(communists) prior to WW2...
      I agree with you, we shall never forget the kristallnacht, the purges and similar stuff.However, we shall also not forget the heroic sacrifice of the Soviet people in defeating Nazi Germany.

      Vanrendo wrote:

      The history of the Soviet Union between 1927 and 1953 covers the period in Soviet history from the establishment of Stalinism through victory in the Second World War and down to the death of Joseph Stalin in 1953
      Stalinism started before the victory of USSR in ww2. It started from 1927 and yea, it did end with his death.
      Ok I swapped the "turn on" statement around, I don't know how I did it but I meant Nazis turning on Soviets. (nonetheless Stalin had a pact with Hitler and only decided to stick with the Allies because of that treacherous attack) and due to that the Soviets contributed to defeating the Nazis.If Hitler did not attack the Soviets,8 out 10 who's soldiers would've died?
      Yes I must forget about what if.The important part is,Nazi Germany was defeated and the Soviets had a part in it(but only because Hitler broke the pact)

      At least we agree that Nazism and Communism are both evil.Both systems have mass murder, oppression and crime against humanity in common.If one did it a little bit less than the other is everyone's own opinion.
    • Vanrendo wrote:

      Joe Bartolozzi wrote:

      Vanrendo wrote:

      But what would've been the outcome if Stalin/Soviets did not decide to turn on the Nazis?
      Well, the soviets didn't turn on the Nazis, the Nazis did betray them and attacked them on 22nd June 1941 and speaking realistically, this would have happened for sure. The soviet-nazi alliance would easily break.

      Vanrendo wrote:

      Stalin/Soviet did liberate countries from Nazism but replaced it with Communism... it's like going from bad to worse...
      Wow, that is absolutely wrong. Communism was indeed an evil system, but it wasn't as evil as Nazism! The conditions of those countries improved, the people of Eastern europe could now live without the fear of dying every single moment.Well of course, the civic liberties in Soviet rule decreased, they lost a lot of political freedom, but it was still better than what they had under the Nazis, at least the Eastern europeans weren't considered as sub-humans anymore.

      Vanrendo wrote:

      USSR should maybe also get recognition for their part in WW2
      Maybe? Do you even recognize the fact that the USSR alone killed 80% of the Nazis? 8 out of 10 Nazis died on the Eastern front.If you think that the allies alone would have managed to defeat Nazis, then you are wrong, they would have failed. Nukes? Well, the Germans had Werner Heisenberg(Oppeneheimer saw him as more capable than himself) , one of the greatest physicist of all times on their side, say USA nuked Germany, the Germans would of course not surrender instead would have speed up their Nuclear research and might have developed their own nuclear bomb. Do remember that the Germans were the first to build the jet fighter and the rocket (Credit goes to Werher von Braun, he worked for NASA after the war). Resources would have certainly been a problem on the German side.

      Say that the Nazis managed to defeat USSR, in that case, it was game over for allies. With all those soviet resources, the German tech and military would be impossible to stop.

      Vanrendo wrote:

      What we shall never forget is the nightmare of Hitler and the Nazis and the nightmare of Stalin and the Soviets(communists) prior to WW2...
      I agree with you, we shall never forget the kristallnacht, the purges and similar stuff.However, we shall also not forget the heroic sacrifice of the Soviet people in defeating Nazi Germany.

      Vanrendo wrote:

      The history of the Soviet Union between 1927 and 1953 covers the period in Soviet history from the establishment of Stalinism through victory in the Second World War and down to the death of Joseph Stalin in 1953
      Stalinism started before the victory of USSR in ww2. It started from 1927 and yea, it did end with his death.
      Ok I swapped the "turn on" statement around, I don't know how I did it but I meant Nazis turning on Soviets. (nonetheless Stalin had a pact with Hitler and only decided to stick with the Allies because of that treacherous attack) and due to that the Soviets contributed to defeating the Nazis.If Hitler did not attack the Soviets,8 out 10 who's soldiers would've died?Yes I must forget about what if.The important part is,Nazi Germany was defeated and the Soviets had a part in it(but only because Hitler broke the pact)

      At least we agree that Nazism and Communism are both evil.Both systems have mass murder, oppression and crime against humanity in common.If one did it a little bit less than the other is everyone's own opinion.
      The main reason behind Molotov-Ribbentrop pact was that the western powers were bowing down in front of Nazis (Appeasement), this also troubled the USSR who of course believed that the Nazis would attack them when they get the chance. This is why Stalin agreed to a pact with the Nazis knowing that if he didn't, he will face war. Stalin knew that war a with Germany would be very hard for USSR. Stalin wanted time to make USSR strong enough to attack Nazis. The pact bought them at least some time(The soviets were still very underprepared in 1941, mainly because of purges in the Military).
      The USSR had contacted the Western allies, but could reach no deal against Germany and hence they went with Germany. While, this was a shameful decision made by the USSR (It made things even hard for Poland), but you need to consider the background, Stalin didn't sign the non-aggression pact because he liked Nazism.
      "We can be wrong, or we can know it, but we can't do both at the same time." ~ Heisenberg

      SENIOR ELECTION MANAGER
      HEAD OF THE FPD
    • Well said. My grandfather served in the military in WW2 and his division landed in France in October 1944. Apparently they won a few battles against smaller Nazi divisions in eastern France. But yeah, I have high respect for everyone involved in D-Day. I think it would be cool to go to Europe and visit some of the WW2 monuments/battle sites.
    • Vanrendo wrote:

      We shall never forget WW2 yes, before and after...
      The Allies did a tremendous job on D-Day and yes the USSR should maybe also get recognition for their part in WW2.But what would've been the outcome if Stalin/Soviets did not decide to turn on the Nazis?Can anyone imagine a world run by Nazis and Communists? Stalin/Soviet did liberate countries from Nazism but replaced it with Communism... it's like going from bad to worse...
      What we shall never forget is the nightmare of Hitler and the Nazis and the nightmare of Stalin and the Soviets(communists) prior to WW2...

      The history of the Soviet Union between 1927 and 1953 covers the period in Soviet history from the establishment of Stalinism through victory in the Second World War and down to the death of Joseph Stalin in 1953. Stalin sought to destroy his enemies while transforming Soviet society with central planning, in particular through the forced collectivization of agriculture and rapid development of heavy industry. Stalin consolidated his power within the party and the state and fostered an extensive cult of personality. Soviet secret-police and the mass-mobilization of the Communist Party served as Stalin's major tools in molding Soviet society. Stalin's methods in achieving his goals, which included party purges, ethnic cleansings, political repression of the general population, and forced collectivization, led to millions of deaths: in Gulag labor camps and during famine.

      Great Purge. As this process unfolded, Stalin consolidated near-absolute power by destroying the potential opposition. In 1936–1938, about three quarters of a million Soviets were executed, and more than a million others were sentenced to lengthy terms in harsh labour camps.
      Someone’s been reading too much Animal Farm.
    • Saying that east europe went from 'bad' to worse after Soviets defeating Nazis is one of the most insane statements I've ever heard. This statement proves the power of propaganda.
      "We can be wrong, or we can know it, but we can't do both at the same time." ~ Heisenberg

      SENIOR ELECTION MANAGER
      HEAD OF THE FPD
    • Joe Bartolozzi wrote:

      Saying that east europe went from 'bad' to worse after Soviets defeating Nazis is one of the most insane statements I've ever heard. This statement proves the power of propaganda.
      Arguably it went from “bad” to “just as bad” especially during the Stalinist era. And if you or your family didn’t come from a communist Eastern European nation, don’t be a stupid westoid and call me a fascist.
    • Macedonia97 wrote:

      Joe Bartolozzi wrote:

      Saying that east europe went from 'bad' to worse after Soviets defeating Nazis is one of the most insane statements I've ever heard. This statement proves the power of propaganda.
      Arguably it went from “bad” to “just as bad” especially during the Stalinist era. And if you or your family didn’t come from a communist Eastern European nation, don’t be a stupid westoid and call me a fascist.
      "Just as bad" in Stalinist era, alright sure. However the write didn't specify that he was only talking about Stalin's era. His statement still remains extremely hypocritical.
      "We can be wrong, or we can know it, but we can't do both at the same time." ~ Heisenberg

      SENIOR ELECTION MANAGER
      HEAD OF THE FPD