M4a3e8(76)w vs Panzer V vs T34

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    • oceanhawk wrote:

      The soviets helped the Americans, but no where near as much as the Americans helped the soviets
      Ehm, the Soviets killed the most Germans. They also captured Berlin, albeit this wasn't part of the plan but what do you expect? It was war. A war where the Soviets bled a lot.
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    • Quasi-duck wrote:

      Paramunac wrote:

      Stalin was probably terrible for his own people, they didn't fight for him but for their families and countrymen and that is what made the difference.
      Actually, they did. There was a cult of personality. I read some of a book about the Night Witches and the rest of their unit, all they wanted to do was fly, serve the Motherland and Stalin.
      Well, probably. They supported him more because of the situation where you have to defend everything you have and he was the head of the country, but people cared more about their homes and families than about a leader.

    • Paramunac wrote:

      They supported him more because of the situation where you have to defend everything you have and he was the head of the country, but people cared more about their homes and families than about a leader.
      This is debatable on a person-to-person basis so we are both right.
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    • Quasi-duck wrote:

      GreatbigHippo wrote:

      The only way quantity tops quality is by throwing so much fodder into the enemy that they run out of ammunition.
      Nope! #deepoperationswithwellco-ordinatedsupportandastrongarmouredspearheadwithtoomanyreinforcementstocount
      So through guys at the enemy until they run out of ammo, along with LRRP teams to make sure they run out of ammo faster?
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      you are a balls

    • Quasi-duck wrote:

      Oh yeah, I forgot. Jewish and Soviet slave labour. Not like they never sabotaged anything. Oh wait.....
      But still, work was done.

      Quasi-duck wrote:

      Ever heard of a coup? When people work together, you can do anything!
      Ye-no. Hear of the 20th July plot, and how it failed?

      Quasi-duck wrote:

      And? That means the majority of his work lead to advances. Moscow was a tough nut to crack.
      The majority of his work lead to failures such as Stalingrad and Leningrad.
      The past is a foreign country.

    • still making excuses for nazi Germany Pablo?)))
      Do you know that Hitler took over the command because his generals couldn't deliver ( in Taking Moscow for example). So he thought he could do better.
      Either way, Germany's fate was already sealee the moment they treacherously invaded USSR. Actually, it was not just Germany, it was most of Europe ( aside from UK and a few neutrals ) who did so, since they all either were allied to Germany or under it.
      Also all the equipment that US sold to USSR is only roughly 4% if everything USSR has used in a war. So, don't overestimate the help of allies. Without USSR , Hitler would bring the war to their homes, and who knows what the world be like now

    • Pablo22510 wrote:

      But still, work was done.
      Oh, yes! The work that was done, such good work! Did you know that around 40% of V2's failed to even take-off because Jewish workers sabotaged them?

      Pablo22510 wrote:

      Ye-no. Hear of the 20th July plot, and how it failed?
      That was a small cell, I mean the whole High Command.

      Pablo22510 wrote:

      The majority of his work lead to failures such as Stalingrad and Leningrad.
      Oh sure, not like the Germans had extreme trouble regardless of strategic command because of valiance from Soviet forces. Oh wait, they did. Did you know that in one house, more Germans were killed than in the capture of Paris? In another, so many Germans were killed that Soviet troops would have to run outside and kick down the piles of dead bodies to prevent German troops taking cover behind them.
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    • Quasi-duck wrote:

      Pablo22510 wrote:

      But still, work was done.
      Oh, yes! The work that was done, such good work! Did you know that around 40% of V2's failed to even take-off because Jewish workers sabotaged them?

      Pablo22510 wrote:

      Ye-no. Hear of the 20th July plot, and how it failed?
      That was a small cell, I mean the whole High Command.

      Pablo22510 wrote:

      The majority of his work lead to failures such as Stalingrad and Leningrad.
      Oh sure, not like the Germans had extreme trouble regardless of strategic command because of valiance from Soviet forces. Oh wait, they did. Did you know that in one house, more Germans were killed than in the capture of Paris? In another, so many Germans were killed that Soviet troops would have to run outside and kick down the piles of dead bodies to prevent German troops taking cover behind them.
      1. That means that 60% of the work was done.
      2. Small cell. Managed to move a 1,250,000 men to try and take over Germany.
      3. Sovs at Stalingrad:
      The past is a foreign country.

    • Pablo22510 wrote:

      That means that 60% of the work was done.
      Remember, the V2 didn't do very good anyway.

      Pablo22510 wrote:

      Small cell. Managed to move a 1,250,000 men to try and take over Germany.
      Small cell of high rankers. Imagine if they all just straight up shot Hitler.

      Pablo22510 wrote:

      Sovs at Stalingrad:
      I looked up that photo and got German dead at Stalingrad. Right next to it is the same picture, labelled dead Cossacks and horse. google.ie/search?q=german+dead…B#imgrc=zsxpPwik3dZzgM%3A

      Although, we can't forget that the Germans did reach Moscow.


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    • Quasi-duck wrote:

      Pablo22510 wrote:

      That means that 60% of the work was done.
      Remember, the V2 didn't do very good anyway.

      Pablo22510 wrote:

      Small cell. Managed to move a 1,250,000 men to try and take over Germany.
      Small cell of high rankers. Imagine if they all just straight up shot Hitler.

      Pablo22510 wrote:

      Sovs at Stalingrad:
      I looked up that photo and got German dead at Stalingrad. Right next to it is the same picture, labelled dead Cossacks and horse. google.ie/search?q=german+dead…B#imgrc=zsxpPwik3dZzgM%3A
      Although, we can't forget that the Germans did reach Moscow.



      Whatever. Hitler's fault. But I'm tired of this. We'll discuss about something elsewhere.
      The past is a foreign country.

    • Pablo22510 wrote:

      Whatever. Hitler's fault. But I'm tired of this. We'll discuss about something elsewhere.
      Oh my Gooooooooooooooood! You can't just blame everything on Hitler! No matter what you say, the Germans could not hold any front as long as the one going from Leningrad to the Caucasus!
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    • Quasi-duck wrote:

      oceanhawk wrote:

      they just brainwashed, you are indeed correct
      He could give no supporting facts other than "Hitler was bad". Can you give some?
      Winston Churchill when, discussing a deep strike operation into Germany
      said this


      "why would we target Hitler?, he is our best ally"



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    • oceanhawk wrote:

      Winston Churchill when, discussing a deep strike operation into Germany
      said this


      "why would we target Hitler?, he is our best ally"
      That proves nothing. In fact, both the British and Americans tried to kill Hitler. Although, Hitler was the only man to ever kill Hitler. Though the Soviets did push him to it.
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