Who would win?

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    • oceanhawk wrote:

      Not really. I dont actually think, the Chinease navy, have actually ever been in a naval battle
      Hahahaha, don't need to be. US and China aren't at war, but China is still gaining more power. Just read about what they are doing with their artificial islands.
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    • Quasi-duck wrote:

      oceanhawk wrote:

      their generals are Communist party politicans, not even army men..
      The US armed forces has a lot of civvies in it.

      oceanhawk wrote:

      Russia would be better off, nuking china, then carrying on with the war, China will just be a drag.
      That is just moronic.

      oceanhawk wrote:

      UK isnt weak, no. Best marines and special forces around
      Point being? As of late, 3 SEALs were killed by two terrorists with a mortar.
      Yes, caring out Civilian roles. Their Chief of staff, and all their major generals, are not just picked cos of them being in a commie party.


      Yea your right, a waste of nukes, maybe try.. Arrows?

      UK isnt weak. Some of the best forces in the world. Chinese forces on the other hand are a bit of a joke..


      A standard Infantryman, in the US army wears about 18k$ of high tech gear.
      A standard Chinease infantry man, wears about 1500$ worth of gear. With half of that going towards their rifle.

      Now that isnt going to change the course of the war, but important to note.



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    • oceanhawk wrote:

      A standard Infantryman, in the US army wears about 18k$ of high tech gear.
      A standard Chinease infantry man, wears about 1500$ worth of gear. With half of that going towards their rifle.
      That doesn't matter when you run into a W85 or Type 77 HMG.
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    • Quasi-duck wrote:

      oceanhawk wrote:

      Not really. I dont actually think, the Chinease navy, have actually ever been in a naval battle
      Hahahaha, don't need to be. US and China aren't at war, but China is still gaining more power. Just read about what they are doing with their artificial islands.
      Yes, but Chinese navy have no experience, American navy, best in the world.

      China cant even make a flipping Aircraft carrier. Although they did purchase one from Ukraine, and re did it.
      But it had to dock shortly after launch, due to suspected engine failure.


      Not to mention, as this is set today. America would rule the skies. Not a lot of f-35s around to ensure Chinease air superiority. So America will rule the air. Until the Russians arrive, where it will be a challenge, but America will still come out on top.. if it was today



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    • oceanhawk wrote:


      A standard Infantryman, in the US army wears about 18k$ of high tech gear.
      A standard Chinease infantry man, wears about 1500$ worth of gear. With half of that going towards their rifle.

      Now that isnt going to change the course of the war, but important to note.
      This means nothing. The Chinese government has the capability to produce it's own gear, so it's naturally going to be cheaper.
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    • oceanhawk wrote:

      Yes, but Chinese navy have no experience, American navy, best in the world.
      Chinese subs keep tracking American carrier groups without being discovered for months. So, yeah.

      oceanhawk wrote:

      China cant even make a flipping Aircraft carrier. Although they did purchase one from Ukraine, and re did it.
      But it had to dock shortly after launch, due to suspected engine failure.
      China is building their own.....
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    • Quasi-duck wrote:

      oceanhawk wrote:

      Yes, but Chinese navy have no experience, American navy, best in the world.
      Chinese subs keep tracking American carrier groups without being discovered for months. So, yeah.

      oceanhawk wrote:

      China cant even make a flipping Aircraft carrier. Although they did purchase one from Ukraine, and re did it.
      But it had to dock shortly after launch, due to suspected engine failure.
      China is building their own.....
      Lol, gimme the source on that. If anything, Id say the Americans, are letting the Chinese navy, think that

      Yea, still about 90 years behind America, and by the time they up and running could be 100 years. Meanwhile America got 20



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    • oceanhawk wrote:

      Yea, still about 90 years behind America, and by the time they up and running could be 100 years. Meanwhile America got 20
      No one keeps CV in service that long. The US only have 10 super carriers, the rest are helicopter carriers.

      oceanhawk wrote:

      Lol, gimme the source on that. If anything, Id say the Americans, are letting the Chinese navy, think that
      Highly doubtful, why would they do that? America sells military tech, why would they make themselves look bad? google.ie/?client=firefox-b-ab…ier+for+a+month&gws_rd=cr
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    • Quasi-duck wrote:

      oceanhawk wrote:

      Yea, still about 90 years behind America, and by the time they up and running could be 100 years. Meanwhile America got 20
      No one keeps CV in service that long. The US only have 10 super carriers, the rest are helicopter carriers.

      oceanhawk wrote:

      Lol, gimme the source on that. If anything, Id say the Americans, are letting the Chinese navy, think that
      Highly doubtful, why would they do that? America sells military tech, why would they make themselves look bad? google.ie/?client=firefox-b-ab…ier+for+a+month&gws_rd=cr
      I meant, America had carriers almost 100 years ago. China still havent made 1

      Actually America only got 11, not 10. As far as I can remember, USS Kitty Hawk, is in reserve.
      The rest are heli indeed. However the New USS Ford, is awaiting Commission. Im not 100% on that



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    • oceanhawk wrote:

      I meant, America had carriers almost 100 years ago. China still havent made 1

      Actually America only got 11, not 10. As far as I can remember, USS Kitty Hawk, is in reserve.
      The rest are heli indeed. However the New USS Ford, is awaiting Commission. Im not 100% on that
      Doesn't matter much anyway if Chinese subs will just sink them, eh?
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    • Quasi-duck wrote:

      oceanhawk wrote:

      I meant, America had carriers almost 100 years ago. China still havent made 1

      Actually America only got 11, not 10. As far as I can remember, USS Kitty Hawk, is in reserve.
      The rest are heli indeed. However the New USS Ford, is awaiting Commission. Im not 100% on that
      Doesn't matter much anyway if Chinese subs will just sink them, eh?
      yea, they wont. Chinese subs are a joke, scramble a few p-8s problem solved.
      Chinease subs, are tracking American ships,



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    • oceanhawk wrote:

      yea, they wont. Chinese subs are a joke, scramble a few p-8s problem solved.
      Chinease subs, are tracking American ships,
      Look, Chinese subs have no problem stalking US ships. That means they'll (the American ships) will be sunk pretty sharpish the South China.
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    • Hahaha, from that link


      Still, a carrier is typically escorted by two or three cruisers and destroyers, each armed with a powerful bow-mounted sonar and one, often two anti-submarine helicopters.



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    • Quasi-duck wrote:

      oceanhawk wrote:

      Still, a carrier is typically escorted by two or three cruisers and destroyers, each armed with a powerful bow-mounted sonar and one, often two anti-submarine helicopters.
      Didn't work too well though, did they?
      the chinease sub, wouldnt have been able to sink the carrier.

      And this only reports one incident, so its not like they are tailing every other carrier..



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    • oceanhawk wrote:

      the chinease sub, wouldnt have been able to sink the carrier.
      Really? Why?

      oceanhawk wrote:

      And this only reports one incident, so its not like they are tailing every other carrier..
      How would you know? The Americans are obviously not very good at finding the Chinese subs.
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    • Quasi-duck wrote:

      oceanhawk wrote:

      the chinease sub, wouldnt have been able to sink the carrier.
      Really? Why?

      oceanhawk wrote:

      And this only reports one incident, so its not like they are tailing every other carrier..
      How would you know? The Americans are obviously not very good at finding the Chinese subs.
      you aint got source, that they are...


      also, this is why...


      oceanhawk wrote:

      Hahaha, from that link


      Still, a carrier is typically escorted by two or three cruisers and destroyers, each armed with a powerful bow-mounted sonar and one, often two anti-submarine helicopters.



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      -Friedrich von Haye