Who would win?

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    • Who would win?

      This is a thread meant to discuss people/nations/animals pitted against each other.

      First topic, who do you think would win in a war between US and UK vs Russia and China?

      Rules for this battle
      1. No nukes
      2. no other countries can help militarily in anyway
      3. They start with current resources, military, economy etc
      4. war is won whenever the other side surrenders
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    • The answer is Russia and China. While their forces may be beaten conventionally, China has the most manpower and the two together have the most land in the world. Russia is the biggest country, while China has one of/the largest populations in the world.

      So while forces may be defeated in open combat, the countries will never be subdued and will just turn into another Afghanistan, with plenty of IED's and the like.

      Besides, the UK isn't much good. They only have 500 Challenger 2's, of which they cannot make ammo for, they make it in a factory in Belgium, I think it is. With no help from outside nations, they will have to build their own ammo factory.
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    • Quasi-duck wrote:

      The answer is Russia and China. While their forces may be beaten conventionally, China has the most manpower and the two together have the most land in the world. Russia is the biggest country, while China has one of/the largest populations in the world.

      So while forces may be defeated in open combat, the countries will never be subdued and will just turn into another Afghanistan, with plenty of IED's and the like.

      Besides, the UK isn't much good. They only have 500 Challenger 2's, of which they cannot make ammo for, they make it in a factory in Belgium, I think it is. With no help from outside nations, they will have to build their own ammo factory.
      The Americans can supply their ammo


      China ha, its a joke of an army. They dont even have a central command



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    • oceanhawk wrote:

      The Americans can supply their ammo
      Show me America's factories that produce ammo for the Challenger 2.

      oceanhawk wrote:

      They dont even have a central command
      Source?

      oceanhawk wrote:

      China ha, its a joke of an army.
      That is what Japan thought in WWII. They've only gotten stronger since.
      Forum Gang Commissar



      I changed it for you Dia <3
    • United States and UK.

      Reasons:
      • The American and British Navy are better and greater in number against the Russians and the Chinese.
      • Russia would be unable to fight on two fronts, Russia would have to fight in the European front and the Asian front.
      • The North American aviation is technologically superior to China and Russia.
      • China would have supply problems, which would lead to riots.
      No one would win the war, but humanity would lose.


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    • Caesar wrote:

      Russia would be unable to fight on two fronts, Russia would have to fight in the European front and the Asian front.
      What kind of a moron attacks through Siberia....?

      Caesar wrote:

      The North American aviation is technologically superior to China and Russia.
      Yes, but Russian aviation is quantity over quality. Quantity is a quality of its own.

      Caesar wrote:

      China would have supply problems, which would lead to riots.
      So would the Americans, no more Chinese made goods.
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      I changed it for you Dia <3
    • Quasi-duck wrote:

      What kind of a moron attacks through Siberia....?
      During the first world war, Russia was defeated in Siberia by the German Navy, during World War II, the Germans controlled the sea of Siberia.



      Quasi-duck wrote:

      Yes, but Russian aviation is quantity over quality. Quantity is a quality of its own.
      An aircraft with American technology would be able to destroy 30 Russian aircraft.




      Quasi-duck wrote:

      So would the Americans, no more Chinese made goods.
      China would be difficult to supply, in fact, during the Chinese Civil War and World War II, the Chinese weren't unable to create supply lines.


      "I came, I saw, I conquered" Written in a report to Rome 47 B.C., after conquering Pharnaces at Zela in Asia Minor in just five days; as quoted in Life of Caesar by Plutarch; reported to have been inscribed on one of the decorated wagons in the Pontic triumph, in Lives of the Twelve Caesars, Julius, by Suetonius.


      "Alea iacta est" Gaius Julius Caesar.
    • Caesar wrote:

      During the first world war, Russia was defeated in Siberia by the German Navy, during World War II, the Germans controlled the sea of Siberia.
      The sea of Siberia and Siberia are two very different things.....

      Caesar wrote:

      An aircraft with American technology would be able to destroy 30 Russian aircraft.
      It'll get mobbed by them though and can only attack one at a time.

      Caesar wrote:

      China would be difficult to supply, in fact, during the Chinese Civil War and World War II, the Chinese weren't unable to create supply lines
      There were supply lines, just long ones. By the way, the Chinese have loads of trains and have transport aircraft. China is not a third world country, it can move supplies around.
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      I changed it for you Dia <3
    • Quasi-duck wrote:

      The sea of Siberia and Siberia are two very different things.....
      Do you think that the Russian army would be able to endure 3 fronts in Europe and one in Asia?



      Quasi-duck wrote:

      It'll get mobbed by them though and can only attack one at a time.
      The North American aviation is completely superior.


      Quasi-duck wrote:

      There were supply lines, just long ones. By the way, the Chinese have loads of trains and have transport aircraft. China is not a third world country, it can move supplies around.
      These supply lines would be attacked by the planes.


      "I came, I saw, I conquered" Written in a report to Rome 47 B.C., after conquering Pharnaces at Zela in Asia Minor in just five days; as quoted in Life of Caesar by Plutarch; reported to have been inscribed on one of the decorated wagons in the Pontic triumph, in Lives of the Twelve Caesars, Julius, by Suetonius.


      "Alea iacta est" Gaius Julius Caesar.
    • Caesar wrote:

      Do you think that the Russian army would be able to endure 3 fronts in Europe and one in Asia?
      Where are these fronts? Besides, American forces could not move through Siberia fast if they did attack there and the area is perfect for guerilla warfare.

      Caesar wrote:

      The North American aviation is completely superior.
      Doesn't mean it will win. The Russians can produce cheap aircraft very fast. China has the manpower for pilots.

      Caesar wrote:

      These supply lines would be attacked by the planes.
      Have you heard of the Ho Chi Minh trail?
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      I changed it for you Dia <3
    • Quasi-duck wrote:

      Have you heard of the Ho Chi Minh trail?
      Have you heard of bombing line supplies about Japan and Germany?


      "I came, I saw, I conquered" Written in a report to Rome 47 B.C., after conquering Pharnaces at Zela in Asia Minor in just five days; as quoted in Life of Caesar by Plutarch; reported to have been inscribed on one of the decorated wagons in the Pontic triumph, in Lives of the Twelve Caesars, Julius, by Suetonius.


      "Alea iacta est" Gaius Julius Caesar.
    • Caesar wrote:

      Have you heard of bombing line supplies about Japan and Germany?
      The Ho Chi Minh trail and German/Japanese supply lines are very different.

      Ho Chi Minh trail is basically a trail through hard to navigate, both by planes and ground forces, terrain.
      German supply lines are trains, trucks, and horse drawn carts along main roads.
      Japanese supply lines are basically ships, 'cause it was supplying islands.

      Notice the problems? Anyway, the Ho Chi Minh trail survived when American had overwhelming air superiority.
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      I changed it for you Dia <3
    • Quasi-duck wrote:

      Anyway, the Ho Chi Minh trail survived when American had overwhelming air superiority.
      The North American Aviation would win.


      "I came, I saw, I conquered" Written in a report to Rome 47 B.C., after conquering Pharnaces at Zela in Asia Minor in just five days; as quoted in Life of Caesar by Plutarch; reported to have been inscribed on one of the decorated wagons in the Pontic triumph, in Lives of the Twelve Caesars, Julius, by Suetonius.


      "Alea iacta est" Gaius Julius Caesar.
    • Quasi-duck wrote:

      They tried to defeat the Trail and couldn't already in the Vietnam War.....
      You've heard of the soviet war of Afghanistan?


      "I came, I saw, I conquered" Written in a report to Rome 47 B.C., after conquering Pharnaces at Zela in Asia Minor in just five days; as quoted in Life of Caesar by Plutarch; reported to have been inscribed on one of the decorated wagons in the Pontic triumph, in Lives of the Twelve Caesars, Julius, by Suetonius.


      "Alea iacta est" Gaius Julius Caesar.