Poll: Patton or Montgomery?

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    • Quasi-duck wrote:

      Who captured Berlin? Who captured Rome? Who won the Battle of Monte Cassino? Who won the Battle of Villers-Bocage?
      Who won in the campaing of the North Africa? Who started the campaign of Italy? Who caused the Chambois bag where thousands of Germans were trapped? Who won the offensive of Lorena?


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    • Caesar wrote:

      Who won in the campaing of the North Africa?
      Monty and Patton, together.

      Caesar wrote:

      Who started the campaign of Italy?
      Eisenhower.

      Caesar wrote:

      Who caused the Chambois bag where thousands of Germans were trapped?
      Who caused it? Well, the Supreme Allied Commanders at D-Day of course.

      Caesar wrote:

      Who won the offensive of Lorena?
      I can't even find anything on this.
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    • Caesar wrote:

      George Patton was better General, his strategy especially during the campaign of Italy served to the fall of the axis in the West.
      Hahaha is that a joke? Patton was inferior to the majority of the German Generals, and the likes of Zhukov.

      But in this instance on this poll, well ffs, his strategy in Italy was a joke, and your argument is very very "funny"



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    • oceanhawk wrote:

      Hahaha is that a joke? Patton was inferior to the majority of the German Generals, and the likes of Zhukov.

      But in this instance on this poll, well ffs, his strategy in Italy was a joke, and your argument is very very "funny"
      Look the poll. They are asked between Montgomery and Patton.


      "I came, I saw, I conquered" Written in a report to Rome 47 B.C., after conquering Pharnaces at Zela in Asia Minor in just five days; as quoted in Life of Caesar by Plutarch; reported to have been inscribed on one of the decorated wagons in the Pontic triumph, in Lives of the Twelve Caesars, Julius, by Suetonius.


      "Alea iacta est" Gaius Julius Caesar.

    • Pablo22510 wrote:

      oceanhawk wrote:

      Hahaha is that a joke? Patton was inferior to the majority of the German Generals, and the likes of Zhukov.
      Dude, Patton was superior to most German generals, except maybe Kesselring, Manstein and Rommel.
      And Guirden, and Rundstedt



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    • Yeah, errr. Rundstedt wasn't that good. Granted, he defended Holland pretty well, but knowing how awfully planned Market Garden was, it wasn't too difficult. Guderian is a bit controversial. Some people think of him as a genius, equal to Rommel and Manstein, and others think that he was pretty bad.

      All in all, I think that only Manstein, Rommel, Kesselring and Model (forgot about him) were better than Patton. Manstein because he revolutionised warfare, Rommel because he constantly beat back Patton at Tunis, and also changed warfare, Kesselring because he was able to hold Patton off in Italy, and Model because he was a pretty good general overall.
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    • Pablo22510 wrote:

      Yeah, errr. Rundstedt wasn't that good. Granted, he defended Holland pretty well, but knowing how awfully planned Market Garden was, it wasn't too difficult. Guderian is a bit controversial. Some people think of him as a genius, equal to Rommel and Manstein, and others think that he was pretty bad.

      All in all, I think that only Manstein, Rommel, Kesselring and Model (forgot about him) were better than Patton. Manstein because he revolutionised warfare, Rommel because he constantly beat back Patton at Tunis, and also changed warfare, Kesselring because he was able to hold Patton off in Italy, and Model because he was a pretty good general overall.
      And FTR Manstein was better than Rommel, if the two if them were running the war

      Id say we would be speaking German right now :P



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    • Pablo22510 wrote:

      oceanhawk wrote:

      And FTR Manstein was better than Rommel, if the two if them were running the war
      Manstein vs Rommel is arguable.

      Pablo22510 wrote:

      oceanhawk wrote:

      And FTR Manstein was better than Rommel, if the two if them were running the war
      Manstein vs Rommel is arguable.
      Not at all, Mantein was better..

      And like just google it there, the results on everypage almost say Manstien is better...


      Now that doesnt say everything, but does say a lot...



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    • oceanhawk wrote:

      Not at all, Mantein was better..

      And like just google it there, the results on everypage almost say Manstien is better...


      Now that doesnt say everything, but does say a lot...
      If you google Nazis on the other side of the Moon a lot of things appear claiming that they do in fact live on the other side of the moon.
      The past is a foreign country.

    • Pablo22510 wrote:

      oceanhawk wrote:

      Not at all, Mantein was better..

      And like just google it there, the results on everypage almost say Manstien is better...


      Now that doesnt say everything, but does say a lot...
      If you google Nazis on the other side of the Moon a lot of things appear claiming that they do in fact live on the other side of the moon.
      They dont live on the other side of the moon...

      They prop could have made it there, if they focused on that task, but yea they didnt...


      And I meant google, Rommel VS Manstien...



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    • oceanhawk wrote:

      They dont live on the other side of the moon...

      They prop could have made it there, if they focused on that task, but yea they didnt...


      And I meant google, Rommel VS Manstien...
      The point I was trying to make is that the Internet isn't the truth. If you Google Nazis on the other side of the Moon, you will get many webpages claiming that they do live on the other side of the Moon. And it obviously isn't true.
      The past is a foreign country.

    • Pablo22510 wrote:

      oceanhawk wrote:

      They dont live on the other side of the moon...

      They prop could have made it there, if they focused on that task, but yea they didnt...


      And I meant google, Rommel VS Manstien...
      The point I was trying to make is that the Internet isn't the truth. If you Google Nazis on the other side of the Moon, you will get many webpages claiming that they do live on the other side of the Moon. And it obviously isn't true.
      Google Rommel VS Maintein, there are pages upon pages of historians stating that Manstein was a better general..

      The Internet isnt the truth, but historians know a good bit of information, and guess where you can find them?

      Here are just 4 random pages I took, when I googled Manstien VS Rommel...
      Apparently, even guderian acknowledged that Mainstein was the best

      quora.com/Who-was-a-better-gen…nstein-Rommel-or-Guderian

      historum.com/speculative-histo…l-who-better-general.html

      thetoptens.com/wwii-german-field-marshals/

      forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=43669



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    • I recall reading that Patton bitch slapped one of his soldiers and called him a coward because he was suffering from PTSD, or "Cowardice" As Patton put it. If anyone here would like to view Patton's exploits however WITH evidence and facts from ACTUAL historians watch these.

      British=best. Duh!