NEW UNIT TYPE- Calvalry

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    • J_B_Piron wrote:

      many countries which participated in the second world war use the cavalry as combat unit. France Greece Yugoslavia Poland China Romania Italy Russia and even the Germans [1. Kosaken-Kavallerie-Division (1st Cossack Cavalry Division)] for example.
      how well did it work out for them?



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    • J_B_Piron wrote:

      Many countries which participated in the Second World War use the cavalry as a combat unit. France, Greece, Yugoslavia, Poland, China, Romania, Italy, Russia, and even the Germans [1. Kosaken-Kavallerie-Division (1st Cossack Cavalry Division)] for example.
      1. France - used cavalry in ONE division, and a few horses in others. All of those divisions were the first to be crushed.
      2. Greece - no horses in the Greek Army.
      3. Yugoslavia - no horses in the Yugoslavian Army.
      4. Poland - they did use horses, but as we all know, they didn't do them much good at all.
      5. China - the nature of the territory in western China, and the fact that the Japs didn't use tanks heavily, meant that China used cavalry with success, but for most of the time only for reconnaissance purposes.Cavalry was used as a combat unit later on in the war, and the Chinese cavalry divisions were considered elite. However, one country that used them well doesn't mean we should implement them.
      6. Romania - the 6 Romanian cavalry divisions had some moderate success until they were put up against a real challenge. 4 of the 6 were completely destroyed in the opening months of Stalingrad, and the remaining two escaped the siege of Crimea after being proved combat-worthless.
      7. Italy - Italy did use horses during WW2, although in Europe only as transport, with a few combat squadrons (few men) on the Eastern Front. All of the cavalry squadrons on the Eastern Front were destroyed completely. Used them in Africa too, where they took Kassala, but again, the nature of the terrain and the lack of armored vehicles doesn't mean we should implement them. They wouldn't have stood a chance against any Allied or Soviet armor division.
      8. USSR - mainly used for transport and logistics. A few used in combat.
      9. Germany - logistics and transport.
      "You can't break a man the way you break a dog, or a horse. The harder you beat a man, the taller he stands." -Jackal (Far Cry 2)

    • Maj. vitéz Mikecz Kálmán and his hussars

      On August 16th 1941, the German XXXXVIII Motorized Corps entered Nikolayev from the east, while the Hungarian Rapid Corps continued fighting its way through the northern suburbs. The Hungarian 2nd Motorized Brigade moved south from Sebino, while the 1st Cavalry Brigade and 1st Motorized Brigade encountered though opposition from Soviet rearguards at Ingulka and Peresadovka. On this day, the Hungarian cavalry made its last real mounted charge, which is recorded as "the last successful major hussar charge of history". With this charge, they repelled the Soviet forces from the flank of the German 79th Infantry Regiment, which couldn't do anything with the resisting enemy.

      It happened in early August 1941, south of Uman, in the area of Pervomajsk. German troops were pinned down behind a railway embankment by strong Red Army forces. German infantry attacked the enemy four times but were repulsed each time by superior forces. The battalion commander cursed and tried to push his men into a new attack in vain, as the Russians steadily held their positions. It was then, when instead of the artillery barrage we were repeatedly asking for, that a Hungarian cavalry squadron showed up. We were laughing. What do these guys want to do here with their sleek horses, armed only with swords? Suddenly, we were stunned by astonishment. These Hungarians went mad! Squadrons followed the others, coming from our rear. Following a loud command, the Huszárs drew their swords and charged the enemy, virtually glued to their horses, with the swords' metal blades shining in the sun. They were led by a middle-aged, sword-swinging colonel, with silver rank insignia sparkling on his uniform's collar. Several light armoured cars covered the flanks. Seydlitz must have charged in the same fashion, I thought! Forgetting the imminent danger, we stood up and watched the unbelievable scene. It looked like an extraordinary cavalry movie. The Russians initially fired at their unlikely attackers, but the shots became more sporadic and finally ceased. We watched in astonishment how the Soviet battalion, which thus far fanatically defended its positions, panicked and hastily retreated under the pressure of the charging cavalry. The Hungarians, savouring their success, cut the running soldiers down with their swords. This time, incredibly, ancient weapons and war technique triumphed over modern technology.
      - Erich Kern, eyewitness of the event, excrept from his Der Grosse Rausch

      The Hungarian unit involved here was the 4/IInd Hussar Battalion, led by Maj. vitéz Mikecz Kálmán, Erich Kern was probably not familiar with the Hungarian ranks, as he mentioned a colonel. The charging units were the 4/5th and 4/6th Cavalry Companies, supported by three machinegun squads, two 20mm Solothurn anti-tank guns, and 4-5 Hungarian Csaba armored cars.
    • Pablo22510 wrote:

      4 of the 6 were completely destroyed in the opening months of Stalingrad
      What the hell do you expect? An entire German army was completely destroyed there, should we not implement Germany as a country?

      Pablo22510 wrote:

      Germany - logistics and transport.
      en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1st_Cossack_Cavalry_Division

      The Cossacks' first engagement against the Red Army happened in December 1944 near Pitomača. The fighting resulted in Soviet withdrawal from the area.
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    • Quasi-duck wrote:

      Pablo22510 wrote:

      4 of the 6 were completely destroyed in the opening months of Stalingrad
      What the hell do you expect? An entire German army was completely destroyed there, should we not implement Germany as a country?

      Pablo22510 wrote:

      Germany - logistics and transport.
      en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1st_Cossack_Cavalry_Division
      The Cossacks' first engagement against the Red Army happened in December 1944 near Pitomača. The fighting resulted in Soviet withdrawal from the area.
      1. No, but they were proven worthless and not good at combat.
      2. Cossacks are hardly Germans. Maybe part of the Wehrmacht, but not Germans.
      3. Why do you not want Paras, which were a much bigger part of WW2 than cavalry, and want cavalry?
      "You can't break a man the way you break a dog, or a horse. The harder you beat a man, the taller he stands." -Jackal (Far Cry 2)

    • Pablo22510 wrote:

      Greece - no horses in the Greek Army.

      Yugoslavia - no horses in the Yugoslavian Army.
      The Greeks used cavalry against the Italians in Epirus and Albania. Three Greek cavalry regiments fought in this difficult terrain.

      And for the Royal Yugoslav Army i know the 1st Cavalry Division and that the partisans had cavalry formations too.

      And the Belgians as one another Country in the War had Cavalry too ( 1st and 2nd Cavalry Division).