Friendly Banter

Lord Asher wrote:

oceanhawk wrote:

Lord Asher wrote:

oceanhawk wrote:

Lord Asher wrote:

oceanhawk wrote:

Quasi-duck wrote:

oceanhawk wrote:

Quasi-duck wrote:

oceanhawk wrote:

the government were gonna force him into labor

Lol, ever heard of "Conscription in the Vietnam War"?

Did u miss the part where I said, par military service?

So it is alright to force someone to die in a war that they don't why they are fighting, and don't want to be there? Sicko.

Its okay to not fight, and let the enemy come and kill and torture Women and Children? And ruin our great nation?No surrender and stand down, is sickening and cowardly

He's talking about Vietnam, so I highly doubt the Vietcong would have invaded the US. In fact, US soldiers probably raped and murdered many Vietnamese people.

And the north never did that to civilians in the south?

You're avoiding the subject matter. Whether the North did it isn't the issue, it's the fact you are justifying slavery through conscription by pretending the Vietnam War was necessary to defend America. The fact remains, US soldiers went against Rules of Engagement consistently and lowered themselves to the level of the enemy. Why should a US citizen be forced to die for a cause which should be volunteer-only?Conscription is necessary in some matters- massive wars which threaten independance and rights- but to be used in an intervention is quite an illogical and rash decision. Imagine the outcry if a draft was imposed during Afghanistan, it would be completely unecessary.
A more strategic, logical-which would waste less resources- tactic is to defend the key points and use small, counter-guerrila special ops to improve effeciency and not waste billions.

I never said I supported conscription, I have mixed views about it, and sending conscripted troops to Vietnam, is and was a mistake because they dont have the skills/ thought procsess as a volunteer soldier..
My origninal argument, was against the communists forcing people into government work, like forced labor etc, I am a hardcore conservative capitalits, and believe in freedom, so really you should be pointing that lethal round, at the commies...


And it wasnt just that A communist Vietnam would invade America, the spread of communism was a major threat, to humanity its self. More and more people would go hungry and starve, like today, the commie nations, Cuba and North Korea, the people there are starving!

A doctor there, makes 40$ a month, a private taxi driver makes 60$ a day!

You're backtracking on yourself.
From your words, you heavily support conscription because you find refusing it 'cowardly', I quote from your earlier replies. By referencing your earlier argument, you are once again changing the subject matter. We were debating your clear support of conscription in the Vietnam War.

I quote, Quasi-duck: "So it's alright to force someone to die in a war that they don't know why they are fighting, and don't want to be there? Sicko," on the matter of conscription in the Vietnam War.

You reply, "It's okay to not fight, and let the enemy come and kill and tortue Women and Children? And ruin our great nation? No surrender and stand down, is sickening and cowardly." From that snippet, it's logical to assume you wholeheartedly support Vietnam War conscription because that's where the conversation was headed. If this was meant in a different context, I apologise, but that's was it seems like.

To clarify, I'm not a fan of Capitalism or Communism, they have their benefits and flaws, comparable to humanity itself. But, you refer to America as a great nation, which made me cringe. Every country has it's proud moments and... no so proud moments.

I thought this was friendly banter.

Lord Asher wrote:

oceanhawk wrote:

Lord Asher wrote:

oceanhawk wrote:

Lord Asher wrote:

oceanhawk wrote:

Lord Asher wrote:

oceanhawk wrote:

Quasi-duck wrote:

oceanhawk wrote:

Quasi-duck wrote:

oceanhawk wrote:

the government were gonna force him into labor

Lol, ever heard of "Conscription in the Vietnam War"?

Did u miss the part where I said, par military service?

So it is alright to force someone to die in a war that they don't why they are fighting, and don't want to be there? Sicko.

Its okay to not fight, and let the enemy come and kill and torture Women and Children? And ruin our great nation?No surrender and stand down, is sickening and cowardly

He's talking about Vietnam, so I highly doubt the Vietcong would have invaded the US. In fact, US soldiers probably raped and murdered many Vietnamese people.

And the north never did that to civilians in the south?

You're avoiding the subject matter. Whether the North did it isn't the issue, it's the fact you are justifying slavery through conscription by pretending the Vietnam War was necessary to defend America. The fact remains, US soldiers went against Rules of Engagement consistently and lowered themselves to the level of the enemy. Why should a US citizen be forced to die for a cause which should be volunteer-only?Conscription is necessary in some matters- massive wars which threaten independance and rights- but to be used in an intervention is quite an illogical and rash decision. Imagine the outcry if a draft was imposed during Afghanistan, it would be completely unecessary.A more strategic, logical-which would waste less resources- tactic is to defend the key points and use small, counter-guerrila special ops to improve effeciency and not waste billions.

I never said I supported conscription, I have mixed views about it, and sending conscripted troops to Vietnam, is and was a mistake because they dont have the skills/ thought procsess as a volunteer soldier..My origninal argument, was against the communists forcing people into government work, like forced labor etc, I am a hardcore conservative capitalits, and believe in freedom, so really you should be pointing that lethal round, at the commies...


And it wasnt just that A communist Vietnam would invade America, the spread of communism was a major threat, to humanity its self. More and more people would go hungry and starve, like today, the commie nations, Cuba and North Korea, the people there are starving!

A doctor there, makes 40$ a month, a private taxi driver makes 60$ a day!

You're backtracking on yourself.From your words, you heavily support conscription because you find refusing it 'cowardly', I quote from your earlier replies. By referencing your earlier argument, you are once again changing the subject matter. We were debating your clear support of conscription in the Vietnam War.

I quote, Quasi-duck: "So it's alright to force someone to die in a war that they don't know why they are fighting, and don't want to be there? Sicko," on the matter of conscription in the Vietnam War.

You reply, "It's okay to not fight, and let the enemy come and kill and tortue Women and Children? And ruin our great nation? No surrender and stand down, is sickening and cowardly." From that snippet, it's logical to assume you wholeheartedly support Vietnam War conscription because that's where the conversation was headed. If this was meant in a different context, I apologise, but that's was it seems like.

To clarify, I'm not a fan of Capitalism or Communism, they have their benefits and flaws, comparable to humanity itself. But, you refer to America as a great nation, which made me cringe. Every country has it's proud moments and... no so proud moments.

I thought this was friendly banter.

There are times when conscription is necessary and times when it is not, fighting in nam, was not a good time for conscription but there are times, when closer to home, Conscription is needed..
Yea, I didnt support Vietnam conscription, I would have supported an American war in Vietnam, rather than the interventions it conducted..
But I couldnt justify conscription for serving in Vietnam, but if the fear of communism was closer to home, I would support Conscription, but even if it wasnt just commies, even if it was just another enemy nation, and it was close to home, then I would support conscription...


Capitalism doesnt have any flaws, well very minor ones. But you are right every nation has its good and bad moments




now we have lost friendly banter, we need to return to friendly banter

Ellio_98 wrote:

The argument you guys were having was so long i could not be bothered to read it or even acknowledge it

Ellio_98 wrote:

I think we all need to sit down and think of the meaning of our existence banter

GreatbigHippo wrote:

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Quasi-duck wrote:

GreatbigHippo wrote:

1 banter
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*stabs GBH*

Rough Banter?

GreatbigHippo wrote:

I'm not sure what's happening now.

paper wars wrote:

That moment when people have a long argument that starts friendly but ends in book long speeches that no longer have to do with the subject at hand.